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Team Topologies: Organizing Business and Technology Teams

Effective software teams are essential for any organization to deliver value continuously and sustainably. But how do you build the best team organization for your specific goals, culture, and needs?

In the first episode of a two-part series, Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais, authors of the new book Team Topologies: Organizing Business and Technology Teams for Fast Flow, join Dev Interrupted to share their secrets to successful team patterns and organization design. They also discuss how to build adaptive team models capable of evolving with technological change and organizational maturity.

Both guests are DevOps leaders: Matthew coined the term “Team Topologies” and carries a Master’s Degree in Neuroscience from Oxford University while Manuel is a DevOps thought leader and co-founder of DevOps Lisbon.

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Episode Highlights Include:

  • The four fundamental types of teams

  • Why a fast flow of change should be the goal

  • How to achieve faster flow and more effective feedback loops

  • Why handoffs between teams are a bad idea

  • What are “stream-aligned” teams?

  • How to think about trust boundaries between remote teams

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Discussion (2)

nobilitypnw profile image

I really like the bit about not performing handoffs between teams. They never seem to go well. And according to the pod, that's not just an anecdotal observation! In the interview they say something about teams only having 15% efficiency when transitioning.

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Nick Hodges

Fast flow should always be the goal. Nowadays the faster a team moves the more stable it becomes.