Although I recognize it may be provocative, this is a genuine question.
What brought you into programming?
Is it something you always imagined y...
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Provocative maybe - but a genuine question.
In my case, life somehow pushed me to be a programmer, old bosses at work and people around me told me that I should get a degree in CS (never had any meaning to before they did). I never actually got a degree but I did spend a couple of years learning mostly by myself, and somehow (almost as if by pure luck) got to where I am today.
I truly believe that this industry is tough (I will explain).
Yes, we get paid quite well, but we work unreasonable hours, we sit down at the computer for 9-12 hours a day, we handle toxic clients, coworkers, managers. We then go home to try and enjoy whatever is left of our day, just to wake up tomorrow and do it all over again. While this criticism might be directed at our societal structure as a whole and not specifically at the tech industry, the industry does shine a bright light on everything that is wrong with the societal work structure.
That is why I don't think anyone who is working in this industry solely for the money will remain in this industry for too long. In order to work as a programmer - you have to love programming. If you don't LOVE programming - you won't remain a professional programmer. Passion is the answer all the way.
Ask yourself - is programming something I'd do even without the money? My answer is probably - if the need for a specific tool arises and there is no solution - I'd make one.
Your point about salaries dropping is completely wrong. Salaries might drop for Juniors and average-level developers because the market is saturated. Senior and highly technical developers will keep making more and more as time goes on.
My bottom line is - as of right now, I have no reason to search or switch to a different profession. If programming will become obsolete (it won't) or if I will get so tired of interacting with others in this industry - I will probably switch to being a personal chef or an author, or a farmer (probably farmer, honestly).
Slightly different take.
It is not programming, or development, that I am in love with; it is solving problems. It just so happens that code is quite often a significant contributor to solving these problems. Problems will always need solving and the vast majority of the population don't know how to think about problems to go about solving them in any meaningful way. Even the growth of low-code platforms and AI generated code does not make the issue go away, it just makes those of us who know how to solve problems move faster by not having to set up the boilerplate each time.
Thanks for the answer. I don't think the programming will be obsolete either.
So many people think about farming. :D I must confess sometimes I really want to buy a few goats (I heard they are easiest to start the farm with) and see what it's like.
I have some chickens, they are great, very interesting and sweet animals.
Great comments. As a junior developer i found them helpful. Though i do believe passion is a key material for staying in this industry.
I'd say both.
I think I ultimately chose this path above some others I thought about because it was a more pragmatic career, but I do have a passion for technology that is a driver for the things I considered.
I wouldn't work in a field I had no passion for, but I have other passions I strayed from in order to pursue a more financially-secure career.
Money 😂 If I had lot's of money for sure I wouldn't write code. would be more of a gamer and stressing about quests instead of bugs. But after coding for a long time it's now like a passion, i have fun building projects, learning new things and teaching others.
I'm not sure it's either, for me.
It's more like, "this is the only thing I'm any good at"!
That’s defo the good third reason, can relate 😄
It's a passion for making things for me. For most of my career that has meant risking money rather than entering the profession to earn more of it.
The lifelong learning drives me on still, I'm more than 120,000 hours in now and I still know next to nothing. Wanting to make things has created businesses that have sales measured in billions (not per annum sadly) and have employed thousands of people. Wanting to make things has let me live in 6 countries and visit more than 80. I could probably have earned more actual money doing other things, but being a programmer has given me a career with daily challenges, strategic challenges, hopes and dreams. That's a pretty incredible wage in itself.
Both.
Money without passion a never ending ending game. You will get tired sooner or later. Passion without money hits you from Day 1 with no life left to make your soul stay in the game of life.
You need to balance both, chase passion and make sure you have enough money to feed that monster.
I have been in startups with just passion with lot of financial burdens, I have walked out many times empty handed and frustration than anything else.
Reasonable amount of money and passion for what we do is always essential. There is no this or that in this scenario.
I had few positions in different areas of the tech world. After few years of trying different things I just understood that programming is something I would enjoy for longer period of time (other positions got me bored in a few months). I wouldn't call it a passion, but money wasn't part of the decision.
Passion all day. I have no desire to work for money. Follow your passion and the money will come, and if it doesn't at least you are doing what you love.
The passion is non-rational.
Both! I've done programming all my life, here and there, when I needed a custom app, or just for fun, if an idea struck me. When I was very young I sold cassette copies of a haunted house game I wrote for the ZX81. My first job as a teen was designing a database for the forestry department here at OSU & I loved it. But nobody ever told me it could be, like, a career! It seems dumb to me now to have missed it. But recently I needed a change for financial reasons, and poking around, I discovered that yeah, this is a great way to make a living. So I'm giving it a shot. How do you like my timing? I started on this path and just a few weeks later, layoffs hit the headlines. Well, even as salaries fall, if I can find a position, I'll be better off than I ever have been, money-wise, doing something I really enjoy. Hopefully the slump will be temporary.
easy question:
if (you_have_money):
passion > money
else
money > passion
When I was a student, I wanted to study a medical profession, but my love for video games made me think, 'How do people create video games?' and my curiosity expanded to other areas such as mobile applications, web, and computer programs.
All of this, along with the satisfaction of creating things that other people can use or find helpful, is what I love most about development.
I've always felt in computer science that giving back for free is essential to bringing new people into the field. How does someone who is 12 and passionate about computers start as early as possible if everything is behind a paywall? Sure, you want people to have jobs, but nothing is stopping you from sharing some knowledge without expecting anything in return. That should be where passion comes in to share your passion with others.
My career began with a big love for technology. I first studied Mechanical Engineering because others wanted me to, but I quickly found out it wasn't for me. So, I switched to Computer Engineering, where I really enjoyed learning about software. After finishing my studies, I got an internship at an IT company to learn about MEAN Stack. I wasn't paid for the first year, but I stayed because I wanted to learn and grow. Later, I worked for a few IT companies and moved from India to Germany. But now, things have changed. I'm not as excited about learning new things in technology as I used to be. I don't want to do extra projects or freelance work like before. I feel like I'm just working for the money. This makes me wonder and worry a bit - what happened to my passion for my work?
Passion and then money for me.
Computers were what I was interested in ever since I was a kid, mostly bcos of games that were on my dad's work laptop, fast forward a couple of years and it was one of the few subjects I genuinely cared about in secondary school.
I chose to study computer engineering at Uni because I liked it and then when I found out I could make good money from it as well, my career path was set.
I honestly do wonder what I'd have done with myself If I wasn't on this path.
I started similarly - I began coding as a teenager for no real reason, then just stuck to it. I even had this romanticized image of a software engineer from the '90s movies (lone wolf hacker :D). I always loved doing that, though.
I respect all the backgrounds and efforts, but it's easiest for me to empathize with a start like this.
I started programming because of my dad's recommendation. I didn't know who I want to be in life, and then I started learning Front End, and fell in love with it. Even now I don't like any others professions but a programmer.
Both. I'm no where near a full time developer, but in the telecommunications/networking field. I've always loved programming and development, but the idea of making more money is motivating. Basically getting paid better money doing something I'm passionate about would be an ideal situation.
Got into programming for the money but developed a passion slowly.
Wrote about it here:
Why I got into Software Engineering Programming instead of Animation and Game Dev
For me, it started as a bit of both. I needed a job, and programming seemed like a good fit. But once I got into it, the passion kind of took over. I genuinely enjoy the problem-solving aspect. Sure, the market saturation is a concern, and salaries fluctuate, but if you love what you do, it's easier to weather the storm.
In my case the destiny pushed me to Computer Science then to programming.
I wanted to be an agronom because I knew that Africa needed to develop it's agriculture. I got a schoolarship and went to Moscow... In the faculty of preparotory my Maths teachers realised that I'm very good in Maths so I have to do something more tough than agronomy. I asked them what they would advise me to follow, they said Maths. I said no, I don't want to be a teacher... They said but in that faculty there is Computer Science and Mathematics. And I accepted to transfer from agronomy to computer Science . I agreed to go to the Mathetics and Computer Science department because I also wanted to discover the world of computers. I got my Bachelor degree in CS since 2010 and I'm specialized in Software enginer. But I don't regreat my choice at all. I like what I'm doing.
I don't care that much about money, programming give me what I wanted : freedom.
I originally had a degree in mathematics and I really liked it, as a subject, but I couldn't see myself making it in academia. I initially was pretty despondent and didn't have a clue what I could do for money. I didn't want to do finance or teach, so my options felt limited, and I coasted on some savings and the forebearance of my family for a while.
I fell in with some creative folks who were making art in minecraft and second life and they needed someone who could help them technically realise their vision. And I enjoyed helping them with that. I saw a webdev bootcamp ad not long after, and went for it, because I thought that would be a place where I could do similar stuff and get paid.
So, a bit of both I guess.
People - should be on the list. Working with the right people is always better than money.
That’s true. I miss some places I worked at because of that. Even though I was paid less.
For me personally It's a passion. I once worked in the IT industry as a coder, and got very bored with the hamster wheel. I decide when to run on the wheel. I am a free hamster. It almost destroyed my joy of code. I do think though that it's a good career for people that can and wishes to dig deep into the business of creating apps in all forms.
You have to love the code to be able to keep up with the industry, but you can't go into it naively and think you will transform the world on the first day. There are so much legacy code that have to be maintained, and so many dreadful business nuttiness that needs to be implemented. You will use years and years before you finally (maybe) get to sit on a project that isn't just someone else's need. Somewhere down that line you might actually get a good idea yourself. Then you will have to plan it. Sell the concept to a boss if you can't get on work on it yourself (properly in your spare time) and then (maybe) someone actually likes it, and finds a need for it. I now only find time to make my own small pet projects. I look at my workrutines (watching youtube and code) That is actually what I do to relax at home :)
Money up to the point where you no longer need to worry about it, then passion.
I need money to live my passion haha
A lot of passion that by chance brought a lot of money.
Curiosity and passion. I started playing with programming aged 7 (back in 1983) - teaching myself all the way. I enjoyed it, found I was good at it, and have been doing it for fun and reward ever since. Being able to do something you really enjoy as a job is fantastic!
Passion (1990) ... later I got a stabil income.
Go with Passion, money will come on their own and you will feel more fulfilled and happy!
Passion! I have a stable income and more connections.
I can survive because I want to and keep learning. Because knowledge is important to me, knowledge is the source of everything.
Passion. I can't pay attention to anything with this dang ADHD, even for a million dollars.
Passion and money
Passion. The only things I've ever done for the money didn't pay nearly as well as the thing I'm doing because I love it. 💕
good
Unfortunately it is just a career
Nothing wrong with that! :) To the contrary - all of us have different motivations. If you learned to code for a career it must have been harder than for the people to whom it seemed like fun. This shows you have a strong will and can achieve complex goals if you set your mind onto them. Keep on keeping on!
Monession
The passion can be a double-edged sword (non-rational) and the economy can enter a crisis, price-gouge and the money lose value.
Money of course
No money, no passion