I assume you installed Linux on your Laptop. May I ask which brand?
In general, I would only suggest Linux to anyone who has thinkpads or dell xps lines. Other than that: too much hassle, worse battery life, etc.
I code daily on Linux because Iβm an embedded software engineer and because the target system is (embeded) Linux. Even then I only use it on my workstation.
My macbook pro is my daily driver because of 1) battery life 2) it works out of the box 3) almost all Linux tools are there.
Sadly, even then it's some models. At my last job I had a Lenovo P50 with Linux Mint. The Nvidia Quadro graphics were poorly supported. The laptop screen would only work with the Intel GPU and external displays with the Nvidia one. Plus I could not reposition the monitors or switch which was primary in software.
I've since run it on a Lenovo Yoga, E540, and an ASUS VC66 desktop without any trouble.
nVidia is pretty much the best reason to use windows on any machine. As for the reason, I recommend watching this answer by Linus Torvalds himself: youtu.be/IVpOyKCNZYw
Nvidia drivers had been messed up by Nvidia itself and I wouldn't blame distros for it. Though I haven't faced those issues with Nvidia external display support although I don't have Quadro instead have GeForce 1050Ti and it's working great with ubuntu although I switched to pop os for better support 3 months ago.
We have pretty much similar experience then. I never had HP laptop that runs Linux works comparably well like on Windows. From my experiences, I had to tweak A LOT to get everything working at least as good as on Windows. And that costed me time that I nowadays don't want to spend.
Imagine tweaking a laptop for 2 weeks straight. And even then there's no guarantee that after updates it will work properly. For me it's not worth it.
If I were you I would use Windows. It works. And WSL 2 is surprisingly good. I've been testing A LOT of cross compilation stuffs with it. It's not perfect yet, but it's getting there.
Is your BIOS current? I've recently been dealing with someone who had Linux problems on their HP laptop and discovered the BIOS had never been updated since new. A number of revisions since had been missed.
Regardless, I've been impressed with how Dell has embraced Linux, and I've seen fewer problems running Linux on Dell than HP. YMMV
I've been using an older HP elitebook and it works surprisingly well on Ubuntu. In fact, the multi-screen support is better than Windows which amazed me. The laptop has discrete graphics from a FirePro m5950 and has both displayport and VGA connections available. Windows refused to run the internal display in addition to the two external monitors, but Ubuntu worked out of the box. HP had led me to believe that it simply wasn't possible. And as far as I can tell, everything else works in regards to hardware too.
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On MSI things don't work better too hahaha
I'm using full AMD since like 12 years ago and no issues related to GPU nor CPU.
I've a Dell with intel CPU and GPU at work and it runs fine till I add more load, then it starts freezing a bit.
Sometimes intel cpus works well and suddenly you get an update from intel team to the linux drivers and the CPU start overheating so... I prefer to keep the brainless safety of AMD.
A 3600X + Vega64 for playing and heavy duty tasks, and a 2500u on my laptop for little projects and "sofa code". ππ π
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On my Huawei MateBook D14 the battery life lasts bit more than I got on my MacBook Pro 13" 2017 touchbar, and getting more performance (that's why i sell the MacBook after some months).
Note that the comparison is from a 2.006β¬ MacBook "Pro" vs a 600β¬ Huawei.
Apple performance per price is a shame...
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For further details, it was a MacBook Pro 13 with intel i5 with iris plus integrated graphics, 8Gb RAM and 256Gb SSD vs Huawei MateBook D14 with Ryzen 5 with Vega integrated graphics, 8Gb of RAM and 256Gb SSD. First one at 2006β¬, second one is 600β¬ (you have the i5 option at 650β¬). Both promoting 10H battery life.
It's like buying a vespa at the price of an A4, that's what disappointed me.
Iβm not going to argue about price or performance of any laptop.
What I was trying to say is from my experience, if you have a windows laptop and you install linux on it, the battery life on Linux (on the same laptop) is comparatively worse than Windows (on the same laptop). At least out of the box. You could tweak the power usage but as I stated before, it might not worth it.
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That's true on the major laptops with intel and from my experience the difference between windows and linux battery life it's almost 0 on AMD ones (i tried only 3)
Funny enough, I get about 4 hours on Linux on my Inspiron, didn't use Windows all that much but I remember it didn't last as long.
Still, I use Arch so it may be the tweaking things. Since Arch doesn't do anything for you, tweaking things is basically what you have to do when installing, so obviously I have it turned for what I need...
Though a Macbook would be perfectly acceptable for me, if not for the fact I live in Brazil and here a Mac costs an arm and a leg, and maybe also a kidney or two...
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I'm a little sceptic about performance of ARM for heavy tasks, general purpose and multi-tasking. Yes there are supercomputers with ARM but they perform a little set of actions instead. Will see how it's managed on a close future for general purpose devices.
Hehe... Buying a Dell xps 15 made me switch to windows. Horrible support for hybrid graphics. Linux on that laptop was basically unusable for me in 2016. But I too read the articles about the xps 13 being a fantastic Linux machine. Should've researched more
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I assume you installed Linux on your Laptop. May I ask which brand?
In general, I would only suggest Linux to anyone who has thinkpads or dell xps lines. Other than that: too much hassle, worse battery life, etc.
I code daily on Linux because Iβm an embedded software engineer and because the target system is (embeded) Linux. Even then I only use it on my workstation.
My macbook pro is my daily driver because of 1) battery life 2) it works out of the box 3) almost all Linux tools are there.
Sadly, even then it's some models. At my last job I had a Lenovo P50 with Linux Mint. The Nvidia Quadro graphics were poorly supported. The laptop screen would only work with the Intel GPU and external displays with the Nvidia one. Plus I could not reposition the monitors or switch which was primary in software.
I've since run it on a Lenovo Yoga, E540, and an ASUS VC66 desktop without any trouble.
nVidia is pretty much the best reason to use windows on any machine. As for the reason, I recommend watching this answer by Linus Torvalds himself: youtu.be/IVpOyKCNZYw
Nvidia drivers had been messed up by Nvidia itself and I wouldn't blame distros for it. Though I haven't faced those issues with Nvidia external display support although I don't have Quadro instead have GeForce 1050Ti and it's working great with ubuntu although I switched to pop os for better support 3 months ago.
I am having HP laptop. My laptop and workstation are same π
I didn't really have problem with battery life but things just break from time to time.
We have pretty much similar experience then. I never had HP laptop that runs Linux works comparably well like on Windows. From my experiences, I had to tweak A LOT to get everything working at least as good as on Windows. And that costed me time that I nowadays don't want to spend.
Imagine tweaking a laptop for 2 weeks straight. And even then there's no guarantee that after updates it will work properly. For me it's not worth it.
If I were you I would use Windows. It works. And WSL 2 is surprisingly good. I've been testing A LOT of cross compilation stuffs with it. It's not perfect yet, but it's getting there.
Is your BIOS current? I've recently been dealing with someone who had Linux problems on their HP laptop and discovered the BIOS had never been updated since new. A number of revisions since had been missed.
Regardless, I've been impressed with how Dell has embraced Linux, and I've seen fewer problems running Linux on Dell than HP. YMMV
I checked my BIOS and it is indeed older than the latest release. It was last updated before I switched to Linux.
Thank you for this comment. Updating my BIOS might resolve some issues with performance.
I've been using an older HP elitebook and it works surprisingly well on Ubuntu. In fact, the multi-screen support is better than Windows which amazed me. The laptop has discrete graphics from a FirePro m5950 and has both displayport and VGA connections available. Windows refused to run the internal display in addition to the two external monitors, but Ubuntu worked out of the box. HP had led me to believe that it simply wasn't possible. And as far as I can tell, everything else works in regards to hardware too.
HP laptop and Linux. What could go wrong :P
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On MSI things don't work better too hahaha
I'm using full AMD since like 12 years ago and no issues related to GPU nor CPU.
I've a Dell with intel CPU and GPU at work and it runs fine till I add more load, then it starts freezing a bit.
Sometimes intel cpus works well and suddenly you get an update from intel team to the linux drivers and the CPU start overheating so... I prefer to keep the brainless safety of AMD.
A 3600X + Vega64 for playing and heavy duty tasks, and a 2500u on my laptop for little projects and "sofa code". ππ π
On my Huawei MateBook D14 the battery life lasts bit more than I got on my MacBook Pro 13" 2017 touchbar, and getting more performance (that's why i sell the MacBook after some months).
Note that the comparison is from a 2.006β¬ MacBook "Pro" vs a 600β¬ Huawei.
Apple performance per price is a shame...
Right.. you compare battery life of a notebook with a different one. Iβm not going to argue with your logic.
Hey, my Audi A4 uses more gas than my Vespa.
Note that "dealing more performance" on the text.
For further details, it was a MacBook Pro 13 with intel i5 with iris plus integrated graphics, 8Gb RAM and 256Gb SSD vs Huawei MateBook D14 with Ryzen 5 with Vega integrated graphics, 8Gb of RAM and 256Gb SSD. First one at 2006β¬, second one is 600β¬ (you have the i5 option at 650β¬). Both promoting 10H battery life.
It's like buying a vespa at the price of an A4, that's what disappointed me.
Iβm not going to argue about price or performance of any laptop.
What I was trying to say is from my experience, if you have a windows laptop and you install linux on it, the battery life on Linux (on the same laptop) is comparatively worse than Windows (on the same laptop). At least out of the box. You could tweak the power usage but as I stated before, it might not worth it.
That's true on the major laptops with intel and from my experience the difference between windows and linux battery life it's almost 0 on AMD ones (i tried only 3)
Funny enough, I get about 4 hours on Linux on my Inspiron, didn't use Windows all that much but I remember it didn't last as long.
Still, I use Arch so it may be the tweaking things. Since Arch doesn't do anything for you, tweaking things is basically what you have to do when installing, so obviously I have it turned for what I need...
Though a Macbook would be perfectly acceptable for me, if not for the fact I live in Brazil and here a Mac costs an arm and a leg, and maybe also a kidney or two...
Should be interesting to see what this will look like if arm laptops go mainstream. Battery life with Linux on arm should be nice
I'm a little sceptic about performance of ARM for heavy tasks, general purpose and multi-tasking. Yes there are supercomputers with ARM but they perform a little set of actions instead. Will see how it's managed on a close future for general purpose devices.
Yep... time will tell
Hehe... Buying a Dell xps 15 made me switch to windows. Horrible support for hybrid graphics. Linux on that laptop was basically unusable for me in 2016. But I too read the articles about the xps 13 being a fantastic Linux machine. Should've researched more
Although I personally haven't, did you or anyone tried the dell XPS developer edition for linux? Or system 76?