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Montegasppα Cacilhας on May 21, 2022

Original post in Kodumaro. Sometimes I spend some time trying to acquire new programming skills, to finally figure out I was wasting time with ...

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deltd3v • May 21 '22

I think you should've added the remaining languages.

Montegasppα Cacilhας • May 26 '22 • Edited

I’ve just realised I have no fair complaints about Erlang!

deltd3v • May 26 '22

I'm actually working on a phoenix frame work rn.

Elixir / erlang is dope

Montegasppα Cacilhας • May 26 '22

I have worked with Erlang before, and I wouldn’t say that. I would say Elixir is dope, but I really have no complaints about Erlang (no fair ones).

Maybe you could write your complaints down. 😉

deltd3v • May 26 '22

I agree. I've had to unlearn alot of thinking of the way i go about designing Web apps when I'm using any beam approach

Montegasppα Cacilhας • May 21 '22 • Edited

🤣 I would take a lotta work. Be my guess and write your own impressions about them, will ya. 😉

deltd3v • May 21 '22

Nooooooo I want you to do it. Cause you captured the essence of my experience with that list wonderfully

Montegasppα Cacilhας • May 21 '22

Well… I think it deserves a part Ⅱ. 😁

But it’s gonna take a lotta work, so it’s gonna take some time. 🤷

Montegasppα Cacilhας • May 24 '22

LOL 🤣

JoelBonetR 🥇 • Aug 17 '22

So my conclusion is that you definitely want to learn Elm 😂

Montegasppα Cacilhας • Aug 18 '22

I love Elm. 😉

Montegasppα Cacilhας • May 24 '22 • Edited

About Python, something annoying me are annotations:

In [1]: def f(x: int) -> int:
      2     return x
In [2]: f('test')
Out[2]: 'test'

They ensure nothing.

Montegasppα Cacilhας • May 26 '22 • Edited

Fair enough. 🤔

Paweł Świątkowski • May 22 '22

At some point in the past, Erlang had become cooler than Ruby

Umm... When exactly was that? I've been following these two languages for about 14 years and could not recall anything like that.

What to expect from a programming language that, when you assign a value to a constant, raises a warning instead of an error? And the program keeps going!

The same could be applied to Ruby, BTW. Although Ruby does not have const keyword.

Montegasppα Cacilhας • May 24 '22 • Edited

Umm... When exactly was that? I've been following these two languages for about 14 years and could not recall anything like that.

It was about 2014~2016, I guess. You maybe have missed it, the hype was strong.

The same could be applied to Ruby, BTW. Although Ruby does not have const keyword.

So it cannot be applied to Ruby, since Ruby doesn’t have const keyword. 😜

I’m talking about thinks like this:

julia> const a = 1
1

julia> a = 2
WARNING: redefinition of constant a. This may fail, cause incorrect answers, or produce other errors.
2

julia> a
2

julia>

Paweł Świątkowski • May 24 '22

So it cannot be applied to Ruby, since Ruby doesn’t have const keyword.

But it has constants.

irb(main):001:0> PI = 3.14
=> 3.14
irb(main):002:0> PI = 4.01
(irb):2: warning: already initialized constant PI
(irb):1: warning: previous definition of PI was here    
=> 4.01

Montegasppα Cacilhας • May 24 '22 • Edited

However, at no time Ruby tries to mislead you by using the token const – which is the point.

Montegasppα Cacilhας • May 24 '22

But I have to admit it shouldn’t use the word “constant” anywhere, not in code (it doesn’t), not in documentation (it does).

Montegasppα Cacilhας • May 24 '22 • Edited

I’m not defending Ruby, I don’t recommend Ruby to anyone, I’m just trying to be fair in my hits. You cannot expect to write an immutable variable in Ruby – Ruby doesn’t propose to support such a feature.

But, when you write a constant in Julia, it’s fair to expect it to be constant. 🤷

(But it isn’t.)