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What tools/frameworks do you use for styling you web app?

ashish on May 17, 2022

One of the most important part of a web app is a good looking and working front end. There are a lot of ways to style your web app from using vanil...

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Gabriel Reimers • May 17 '22

I really like the concept of Tailwind because it is so simple and clean. I'm using that for all my new projects.

ashish • May 17 '22

I'm kinda hooked on to tailwind as well, makes styling so much easier once you know what you're doing.

tzwel • May 21 '22 • Edited

of course i had to reply to the wrong comment, is still can't grasp how this site works lol

1 can't agree. Do you also feel the need to not separate your .js files and write your scripts inlined? I bet you don't. Then why is the css an exception?

2 Takes less time to write. I have to admit, I had never used tailwind but it seems to be as fast as vanilla css or even slower

background: red

bg-red

stuff i need to write in css / tailwind. pretty much the same thing

3 tailwind provides a lot of css properties by default like box shadows, gradients and all.

css also does it! and it's even better i think. what if you want to change the border-radius of one specific element? you can't just use the tailwind class, it's configured to always use the same value, right? you still resort to regular css

am I wrong?

ashish • May 21 '22 • Edited

I don't know about others but almost 70-80% of my apps is usually js, so I like to have as less other files as possible, specially having multiple Module.css file I something I really don't like to do, though I think it's kind of relative, right?
Once you start using it more and more the process gets faster, I admit that it makes jsx look a bit weird due to the longer class names though.
Tailwind provides methods to use custom value actually, you can just do this or extend the theme as needed by adding to tailwind.config.js.

Again, I would like to say that using vanilla css or tailwind or anything else is completely something a developer decides according to their needs and of course the one that's easier and more productive for them. I have used vanilla css in quite large projects and I still do it, that's the reason I feel like tailwind is much faster because I've been using both of them and it's quite clear which one is more productive for me.

tzwel • May 22 '22

fair, I I'm not saying that tailwind has no use cases, just wanted to know your perspective, thanks

tzwel • May 17 '22

why is tailwind better than vanilla css?

ashish • May 17 '22 • Edited

no need for .css files.
takes less time to write.
tailwind provides a lot of css properties by default like box shadows, gradients and all.

just as an example, think that you want to make your div have a gray background, rounded corners, has a width and height of 50% of screen, should be flex, and also has a box shadow.

in vanilla css, you would make a separate css file, and do something like:

.my-div{
  display: flex;
  flex-direction: column;
  justify-items: center;
  align-items: center;
  width: 50%;
  height: 50%;
  box-shadow: 0 20px 25px -5px rgb(0 0 0 / 0.1), 0 8px 10px -6px rgb(0 0 0 / 0.1);
  background-color: rgb(107 114 128);
  border-radius: 0.25rem;
}

whereas in tailwind it all gets converted to this:

<div className="my-div flex flex-col w-1/2 h-1/2 items-center justify-center shadow-xl rounded bg-gray-500">
  ...
</div>

maybe you can figure it out now why I'm hooked on to tailwind, but again it totally depends on the developer, there are developers who prefer vanilla CSS and can do it in the same amount of time I take to implement things on tailwind :)

Shifa Ur Rehman • May 18 '22

Tailwind isn't better than vanilla css. Period.

Josh Corbett • May 25 '22

Tailwind isn’t a replacement for vanilla CSS, it’s merely a tool to assist in applying css. Tailwind’s biggest advantage is the easy-to-apply built-in design system and shorthands for more complicated css values.

There can be no “this is better” because that’s a stupid argument to make. It’s like saying “JavaScript is better than Typescript”. Typescript merely makes life easier for devs but it’s still coming out to JavaScript.

Shifa Ur Rehman • May 26 '22

Partially my point exactly.

Locky Keaney • May 18 '22

I've been wanting to give it a try for a while. Is there tooling and react plugins for it? Or just be spending time in the docs?

ashish • May 18 '22 • Edited

I don't think there are plugins, you just install tailwind on your app and use class names to style the component. For installation and initialization in react you may see this, and personally, I learnt tailwind just by reading docs, the docs are easy to read, if you are ever confused about a css property and how to write it, just go over to docs and search the property. After making a few projects using tailwind, you will eventually start remembering the class names.

Guilherme Tavares • May 17 '22

I really like the CSS-in-JS approach. So, styled-components and emotion are the best picks for this kind of styling. Another library that I like using is Theme UI. It allows to style MDX content easily.

Locky Keaney • May 18 '22

Emotion has always been my go to. Seeing how everything in React is a function, why not the styles as well?

ashish • May 17 '22

CSS in JS is ❤, will check out theme ui, sounds interesting 👀

Nik • May 18 '22

I don't use any frameworks or tools for styling my websites, I just use vannila css, but if you use sass, it will make it a bit easy for you, the reason I don't use tailwind or bootstrap is because they make my html a bit complex moreover i like to make my own styles

Liviu Lupei • May 19 '22

I agree. I also like to have clean HTML, with few attributes, few classes and stable IDs.
Tailwind is just reusing CSS wrote by whatever company is behind that, not flexible enough for me.

Nik • May 23 '22

Yes, It is

Reaper • May 18 '22

Everything needs the team to learn something so the easiest one for me has always been vanilla css, no setup, no fancy quirky stuff.

I do still use tailwind but mostly to create component classes in css with the tailwind processor

so a very simple button might look like this

.btn{
   @apply bg-zinc-900 text-zinc-200;
   @apply inline-flex items-center px-4 py-2 rounded-md;
}

.btn:hover{
   @apply bg-zinc-800;
}

and I use my own libs for layout stuff since they can be used across frameworks and make it easier to reuse stuff (copy paste)

ashish • May 18 '22

makes a lot of sense, may give it a try too sometime

Josh Corbett • May 18 '22

Writing like this ruins the whole point of tailwind

Reaper • May 25 '22

You do end up doing the same but with whatever framework you use, anyway.
If in react/svelte/vue , you'll create components that have their own sets of tailwind styles on the component and then you use the component everywhere.

The only tailwind classes repeated everywhere are the layout ones (margins/display/padding,etc)

All i'm doing is, making it easier to move the components across codebases, I can use the above in a server rendered golang based codebase or a laravel codebase and not have to re-write the design system for every framework I decide to experiment with.

another way to do this is to use web components but I don't see the performance benefit since they won't work on older browsers, hence the above approach.

I've got my own utilities for layouts for react and react native so I don't have to deal with tailwind classes and inline styles separately in both codebases, that's one case where I don't mind getting locked to the 2 libraries (react and react native)

Anyway,
tailwindcss.com/docs/reusing-style...

tailwind does recommends using it when needed.

Pontakorn Paesaeng • May 18 '22

I usually use Windi if available. It is mainly for my Svelte and Vue app. If not, I use Tailwind.

If the styling is very simple or I want to do something my own, I use CSS Module or Vanilla Extract.

If I want to focus on logic, I use Chakra UI.

Keff • May 17 '22

css

Mohammad Mahdi Bahrami • May 18 '22 • Edited

When I wanna make a simple project I use Pico CSS which is "Minimal CSS Framework for semantic HTML"; as they say...

Pico.css • Minimal CSS Framework for semantic HTML

Elegant styles for all natives HTML elements without .classes and dark mode automatically enabled. 7.9 kB minified and gzipped!

picocss.com

When I wanna go for a big one I use Tailwind and DaisyUI

Tailwind CSS - Rapidly build modern websites without ever leaving your HTML.

tailwindcss.com

daisyui.com

ashish • May 18 '22

yes, I have it starred on github!

Vladimír Macháček • May 20 '22 • Edited

Pure CSS via stylifycss.com ❤️
💎 Utility+Components - It doesn't mess your template
💎 Native syntax - you don't have to study nor remember anything
💎 The selectors can be shrinked to bare minimum
💎 No dependencies

ashish • May 20 '22

sounds interesting, adding it to my "use in future projects" list, thanks for the info ❤

JoelBonetR 🥇 • May 17 '22

I'm on React or Next JS usually so the best you can get on this stack is styled-components 😁

codeyStein • Jun 4 '22

I just go with the trusty SCSS, haven't had the time to learn a css framework, but is something I am looking forward to learn in the future :)

mikoloism • May 20 '22 • Edited

Custom SCSS style is better to styling 😍

and using Y/Sass as library to make it fast 😋

Andrew Baisden • May 19 '22

I prefer to use Vanilla CSS but if I was to use a framework it would be Tailwind CSS. I also sometimes use styled-components in React.

Liviu Lupei • May 19 '22

Junior Developer mentioning Tailwind CSS in 3, 2, 1 ...

ashish • May 19 '22

go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Felix DUSENGIMANA • May 17 '22

I mostly use vanilla CSS. For frameworks, I like Tailwind CSS but It depends on the things I am working on.

Raccode • May 17 '22

I always go with the SvelteKit/bootstrap (css) combo for small to medium-sized projects.

Zoltán Szőgyényi • May 17 '22

Tailwind CSS coupled with Flowbite.

Nashe Omirro • May 17 '22

The more I try out different CSS frameworks the more I realize I still have to do some quirky stuff that I may or may not like, but styled-components for sure!

ashish • May 17 '22

I wanna give a try to all of them actually 😅haven't used styled components yet but will do eventually.

Roman • May 17 '22

Tailwind it makes everything simple

ashish • May 17 '22

true!

Shoubhit Dash • May 17 '22

checkout nextui 👀

ashish • May 17 '22

I have seen it but didn't get a chance to use yet 👀

Leo • May 18 '22

Pretty cool UI that nextui has there, I think I will try it in the next react project.

Tobias Rauer • May 18 '22 • Edited

How about (S)CSS.
Tailwind is okay for prototyping or when you don't have time or Devs, or a small project in general.
The worst you could ever write is css-in-js (👀@ all the React Devs).

For projects in production, there is only one way if you want to do it right, and that's SCSS with BEM.
Every library will only add tech debt by obfuscating your codebase, removing semantic meaning from elements (opposed to writing your own classes with a certain methodology).

ashish • May 18 '22

I have tried scss, but tailwind is just what I need, also, why do you think css-in-js is the worst approach? 🤔

Jenuel Oras Ganawed • May 17 '22

I really like and recommend windiCSS. Its really awesome and fast. I use vuejs as frontend, and use vuetify, naive-ui, prime-vue, and element-plus component libraries.

ashish • May 17 '22

unocss works well with vue too :)

Jenuel Oras Ganawed • May 18 '22

yup,,, I actually like adding class attribute on my elements... but yeah, I may use this in the future.

Raí B. Toffoletto • May 18 '22

I've been developing a design system for my current company using MUI. It has great documentation and extensibility, totally recommended!!

ashish • May 18 '22

can you share it here, I want to have a look 👀

Raí B. Toffoletto • May 19 '22

You mean the MUI resource? (mui.com) Or our design system? If the later, sorry but the products are not out yet and it's not an open source library, just an internal proprietary one.... 😔😔😔

ashish • May 19 '22

yep, I meant the later, oh its okay, no worries

Henrique Ramos • May 19 '22 • Edited

I like using tailwind, but it really annoys me having a component with 30+ classes. Nowadays I use emotion or SCSS, but leaning a lot towards emotion

ashish • May 19 '22

yes, the class names are indeed a big issue 😅