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When to Call it Quits on a Project: Stepping Back and Taking a Break

Tori Pugh on March 29, 2018

I was trying to make a Pomodoro timer for the Scotch.io Challenge #6 using a framework I had just started learning, Angular. It was going pretty we...
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Leah

Just a nitpick, neither vue nor angular are languages, they're libraries/frameworks

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Tori Pugh • Edited

Hmmm, then what would you call the specialized code needed to be used for them. In the case of Vue things like the v-if="" or @click="" or for Angular (click)="" or @Output="". I feel that is a language but if there is another term for using the specialized terminology inside a framework let me know and I'll change the term. It seemed to be the best fit to describe the situation.

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Alain Van Hout

That's the library/framework API that you are talking about (API also meant something else before it referred to e.g. a REST API).

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Tori Pugh

So it's just the API or API code? Just feels weird to say that about syntax. It might be because so many think of something else with the term, it seems out of place.

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Alain Van Hout

Yes, that'll also depend on who you're talking to/with. Do note though, that you'll not come across many people who'd refer to it as a 'language' rather than a library or framework, since 'language' has a pretty widespread specific meaning in IT.

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Alain Van Hout

The short answer here is: it's just "the library API" or "the library's API'.

Something to keep in mind in that the 'i' in API stands for interface. So the code you write is meant to (i.e. is your way to) interface with the library or framework. Code is just statements, written in whatever language. So saying 'API code' is equivalent to saying 'looping code', while just calling it 'a loop' works just fine.

I think you'd be surprised how many people do use the term 'API' in the sense that I'm talking about, rather than only in the http/REST/SOAP sense. The following might offer some help: quora.com/What-is-the-difference-b.... Most notably: "An API is an interface for other programs to interact with your program or library without having direct access."

To give a very quick but telling example, have a look at api.jquery.com/ and it's subpages. The 'api' there has nothing whatsoever to do with ajax calls to json http APIs, but in fact refers to the library's (or libraries') surface area, with which you can interact and make use of.

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Bryan Baldwin • Edited

This isn't different then writing a C library with library specific macros, enums, and typedefs. The code you write with it could look very different, but it is still C.

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Leah

it's just an extension of html

I mean you could call it a DSL, but it's really just some extra properties

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Strahinja Babić

I remember when i started with FreeCodeCamp program so i came to the projects that were JavaScript required.
At the beginning i was like O.O okayy, after some time i tried to work on them , tried to use the knowledge i had, but wasnt that enough so i thought, lets call it quits now and learn some more.
So later on i came back to those projects and i was clear on what to do and what approach to have.

Same with the projects after that, if it isnt working, take a break, commit yourself to something else,later it will come to you how to finish it, it will definetly work :)

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Dave Ceddia

I think your takeaway of "come back later when I have more experience" is great. I've had to do that many many times in my career, where I just could not make sense of a thing until I walked away, let it sink in for [hours|days|weeks] and then came back to it.

Redux was a recent example of this, for me. React made sense to me quickly, but Redux took a little while to sink in, and it took me a few failed attempts before I really figured it out. It's also happened with the Elixir language: I think it's cool, I can do small things with it, but I haven't grasped how to do the bigger stuff yet.

All that said, part of the problem IMO is Angular. Angular is complex, some would say overly so. It's not surprising at all that you ran into some weird hard-to-solve corner case, and that Vue was easier to pick up. I'm not a huge fan of it myself. Anyway, I guess I'm saying: if the thing you're trying to learn makes no sense, it might not be you ;)

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Bryan Baldwin

When isn't a good time to quit Javascript?