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On résumés and applying to jobs

Patricio Cano on March 02, 2018

I’ve been thinking about writing this post for a while, specially after my short stint as a hiring manager for the Service Engineer position at G...
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Frank Carr

A couple of observations...

I don't agree with adding something interesting about yourself unless you know for certain that it is something that is going to catch the hiring manager's attention in a positive way. It is easy for this kind of thing to backfire, especially if your interesting fact might have something that has a political, religious or similar slant to it. That's why I almost never mention my military experience until after I'm hired and I know that it won't get a negative reaction.

From what I understand PDF format is a bad idea because resume parsing software usually won't work with it. This could get your resume rejected before a human even looks at it.

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Dian Fay

Another point that bears mentioning is that tailoring your resume to individual job openings takes a fairly substantial amount of time. It might be worth doing if you're being extremely selective and want to maximize your chances at a position you really, really want. But I feel like "you should always tailor your resume for each job you're applying to!" is a recruiter's ideal, not an applicant's. There's no shortage of tech jobs in general and for most people, quantity is a quality all its own. The same resume landing on thirty desks has at least as much a chance of getting you somewhere as five painstakingly tuned resumes landing on five desks. Addressing the specific job is why we haven't ditched cover letters.

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Patricio Cano

That’s a good point, but I still think it depends on the situation. It’s true that having a generic resume will save you time, but trying to stand out can only improve your chances, e.g. if you are applying to a Rails job, move your Rails experience to the top, reorganize your projects so these kinds are more prominently displayed. That shouldn't take longer than 10 minutes.

It’s also true that there is an abundance of job opportunities in tech, which gives us the luxury to be more picky. Aim for the job you’d love to have, don’t settle for the first one that will take you. (Of course this depends on your particular financial situation)

Also, like I mention in the post, cover letters are another way for you to stand out. A good cover letter gets you in the door, and probably into the short pile, but that pile will most likely only contain your resume (specially if they don't use any recruiting software to keep all documents in a single place). By then only your resume will get you further.

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Patricio Cano

Common sense should always apply, of course you should avoid controversial topics.

Re: PDF, it depends on how it’s written. A PDF resume is for a human to see not a machine to read, in my opinion.

Also I used to work at a company that develops recruiting software, resume parsing was done only as a way to perfil fields in a form, kind of like importing from LinkedIn, you still have to review and submit the form yourself. That is pretty common on most recruiting software I’ve come across.

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Frank Carr

Most of the places I submitted my resume to in my recent job search only wanted resumes in Word (.DOC or DOCX) or ASCII Text (.TXT) formats and many specifically said no PDF.

I also found that I had to adjust my resume to make it more simple so that it could be read properly by recruiting software. Many couldn't properly handle fancier formatting such as you described. It felt a bit like doing a web design that would still work in an older version of IE.

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Patricio Cano

I've come across others that say specifically no Word Documents, so it goes both ways. It will vary wildly across our entire industry, specially given that almost all types of companies now have an IT department, and might be looking for developers. Each of these companies will most likely have a very particular HR process, which is why I mentioned to tailor your resume based on where you apply.

If you have a very good PDF resume, and the place where you want to apply only accepts Word, or .txt, then convert it, and submit it. If they ask for these filetypes, it is very likely they do not care how the resume looks, just what info is on it. Which is a valid way of doing things, just not how I would do it.

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Javier Urbistondo

Thank you for the helpful info Patricio!

As for moving the education section further down, would you say this still holds true if you're a new grad? Thanks

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Patricio Cano

Hi Javier!

Well, if you are a recent grad, then there is probably not much that can go above education, right? 😛

If you did an internship while at University (something very common in a lot of places, specially Germany) you could put this experience above your education. If you didn't, it's fine. Put your degree first and list the things that most caught your interest while studying. If you did a group software project, put it here as well.

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brandone-lance

I was wondering the same thing.

A new grad whose work experience, if existent, is not directly relevant seems to be better off having education at the top, followed by relevant projects or skills.

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Scott Hannen

I divided the skills on my resume into three categories: primary, secondary, and limited. If I list everything I've ever worked with it sounds like I'm overselling myself, but I don't want to leave things off that I've got experience with. That was an easy way to say, 'Here's what I'm good at, here's what I work with sometimes, and here's what I'm acquainted with.'

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Love to get some feedback on mine if anyone has a second. I have it hosted at resume.harnerdesigns.com. It displays as a webpage, but then prints like a paper resume, fits on 8.5x11 paper, and prioritizes the content.

If the listing just says send over your resume, I just send them the link but if it's a form with an upload field I just go, "Print to PDF" a new version, and then upload it.