I've only just started making things that work without javascript. I learned to code primarily with vue.js. So pretty much everything I've made up til now doesn't work for a lot of people.
What i've learned from building sites without js is that it's actually easier to build and use.
Some things you just can't work without javascript. Of course.
For things that can you should try and make it work. And if you've got something ike a sortable table, then just show a non-sortable table when js is turned off. That'd be the default behaviour of something like nuxt.js the SSR framework built on vue
Here's a site built with nuxt: sumcumo.com/en/path-next-generatio...
It works completely fine without js
Their contact form doesn't work — but it doesn't appear either, it shows their email and social media instead.
Yes, most of the stuff on this non-application purely "business card" website is still accessible without javascript (at a cursory glance, on sumcumo.com/en/company and sumcumo.com/en/products
We bring the Internet success story to the insurance and lottery industry.
and
Managing digital success in the insurance world with SCIP
never appears, and you are left with an almost blank above-the-fold)
But at what cost? On sumcumo.com/en/jobs try scrolling down (with JS on)
When you switch from "products" to "people", there's a strange flash of color.
When you switch from "people" to "jobs" the site jerks sideways (probably a vertical scrollbar issue)
Generally, there is quite a bit of jank. I am not a neurotypical, so I am not going to judge how this affects the usual visitor, but this is one of the sites where I wish less JS (and less CSS animations, if that's what some of them are) was used. It's very distracting from the content.
I understand that NoJS is important here, as this seems to be a B2B product for the financial industry, where security might be ridiculous? Good job addressing that then.
Anyway, for me, good JS is subtle. It replaces native HTML constructs to be more convenient and effective. Which is why it is a lot of extra work, if at all possible, to automatically generate fallbacks from it.
Most NoJS/CSS tour-de-force s aren't like that. They take mediocre documents, and make them "pop" (viciously attack your face).
There is a time and a place for NoJS. But let's not pretend it's a sensible default, or that there aren't serious costs and potentially insurmountable handicaps associated.
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I've only just started making things that work without javascript. I learned to code primarily with
vue.js
. So pretty much everything I've made up til now doesn't work for a lot of people.What i've learned from building sites without
js
is that it's actually easier to build and use.Some things you just can't work without javascript. Of course.
For things that can you should try and make it work. And if you've got something ike a sortable table, then just show a non-sortable table when js is turned off. That'd be the default behaviour of something like
nuxt.js
the SSR framework built onvue
Here's a site built with
nuxt
: sumcumo.com/en/path-next-generatio...It works completely fine without
js
Their contact form doesn't work — but it doesn't appear either, it shows their email and social media instead.
Yes, most of the stuff on this non-application purely "business card" website is still accessible without javascript (at a cursory glance, on sumcumo.com/en/company and sumcumo.com/en/products
and
never appears, and you are left with an almost blank above-the-fold)
But at what cost? On sumcumo.com/en/jobs try scrolling down (with JS on)
When you switch from "products" to "people", there's a strange flash of color.
When you switch from "people" to "jobs" the site jerks sideways (probably a vertical scrollbar issue)
Generally, there is quite a bit of jank. I am not a neurotypical, so I am not going to judge how this affects the usual visitor, but this is one of the sites where I wish less JS (and less CSS animations, if that's what some of them are) was used. It's very distracting from the content.
I understand that NoJS is important here, as this seems to be a B2B product for the financial industry, where security might be ridiculous? Good job addressing that then.
Anyway, for me, good JS is subtle. It replaces native HTML constructs to be more convenient and effective. Which is why it is a lot of extra work, if at all possible, to automatically generate fallbacks from it.
Most NoJS/CSS tour-de-force s aren't like that. They take mediocre documents, and make them "pop" (viciously attack your face).
There is a time and a place for NoJS. But let's not pretend it's a sensible default, or that there aren't serious costs and potentially insurmountable handicaps associated.