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Nobody should take away this opportunity from people. Shaming people because "they use 1000s of npm modules to deliver simple website" is inappropriate. This is not their guilt, this is a problem of the platform, of the tools. Give people better tools, give people accessible education (without the steep curve).

Thank you for saying this. Entitlement is a dangerous mind trick.

Unions could help to fight against unethical decisions of companies.

I obviously agree and talked about this in this comment:

As Dian said and Leighton said you basically described why they need a union, to lobby the companies to sit down and talk or be regulated by lobbying the government.

You can do both ✌🏾

One of the historical reasons why software devs fail to unionize is because they think they are above "petty ideas" like that or because of the high salaries but evidence has suggested multiple times why they absolutely need to:

  • unregulated overtime leading to burnout
  • sexual harassment and assault cases hindered by NDAs or arbitration clauses
  • lack of protections for service workers in tech
  • those understandable petitions against contracting to the military or using facial recognition in police body cameras

This and many other things are reasons to dismount from that high horse and consider unionizing. Tech workers in big companies have an insane amount of power, they just don't realize it or are too proud to be likened to every other worker out there.

You make the example of knowledge workers being replaced with cheaper fresh graduates but think about factory workers in the hey days of unions. Being replaceable at a whim is exactly the reason why they banded together.

So yeah, just unionize ✌🏾

I think unions will come in some form, don't know which. Especially thanks to the fact that more and more the tech world isn't solely concentrated in SF but distributed across the US and world wide. The needs and rights of a programer in california are not necessarily the same of a programmer on the other side of the globe.