Discussion on: PHP sucks, can it suck less?

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Dany Henriquez

If you complain about using a framework with Python and then happily write you use composer and that Doctrine is good then no one should take you seriously.

"Your coworkers are probably too free, maybe their code is still compiling."
You realize most Go applications are small and compile within 3 seconds, right?

Your arguments are just invalid. Active record is not evil. The thing that is evil here is Doctrine with the insane amount of abstraction which makes doing things efficiently impossible.

Doctrine is a great example of what is wrong with PHP and the people who invented it didn't help the cause. It makes it slow down to a halt with inefficient queries and cluttered classes.