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Bootcamp Outcomes by the Numbers

Peter Berg
software engineer, founder at forward.id
・2 min read

Actual google sheet can be found here.

So what is this?

There is a group of bootcamps that, biyearly, report their results in a mutually agreed upon format. These are the results reported by that set of bootcamps from the first half of 2018.

That group is the CIRR (Council on Integrity on Results Reporting) and that data can be found here.

Key Takeaways

  • 79.3% of graduates get jobs
  • 76.9% of attendees graduate
  • 60.7% of attendees get jobs

Keep in mind

1) Some bootcamps "fire" students

Some bootcamps part ways with underperforming students prior to graduation to ensure their graduate employment rates are reflective of results for people who have mastered their curriculum.

2) Employment is broadly defined

Employment includes full time work, part time work, contract work, and internships as its used here.

3) Online programs have lower graduation rates

If you see a really low graduation rate, it's likely for an online program.

4) These averages are depressed by online programs

The presence of online programs in this data drags down the quoted averages.

5) Employment numbers are reported 6 months post graduation

A program's employment rate reflects the number of graduates that are employed 6 months after having completed the program. This is because it often takes bootcamp graduates 3-6 months to find a job.

6) These results are likely better than average

In general, companies tend to share good news when they have it and keep quiet about bad news. By virtue of the fact that they're getting reported, it's likely that these results are better than average.

Discussion (2)

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Jorge Castro • Edited

I work on education and:

79.3% of graduates get jobs

Comparing with our data, it's close to reality.

Also, online courses have a poor success rate.

About getting a job, a candidate could find a job in a snap (in the first month) if :

a) the candidate knows the right technology. For example Ruby on Rails, there are not many jobs asking for an RoR developer while it's easy to find a job as a java developer.

b) If the candidate targets a jr/entry position. Some students think they could study something and start earning +$100k per year. It is not real.

The secrets to finding a good school are the language and the instructor. It's not the same to assist a school where the instructor is a 20-year-old guy without experience than a school with a seasoned developer.

Also, and for some reason, the age of my students is close to 40 years (including engineers, managements, artists and some project in chief).

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Peter Berg Author • Edited

Good to know that 79.3% number is consistent with what you've seen!

Just out of curiosity, what city are you based out of? I've found that job markets vary quite a bit from place to place.

I ask because what you mentioned about java and the timeframe for getting a job is a bit different from what I've seen in New York specifically.