That awkward moment
Let's say you arrive to some cloud console shell, or you ssh over to another host without the proper flags and end u...
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Hey Richard,
Nice beginners tutorial, I'm always glad when I see a Vim post 😉
Regarding recommending Vim with plugins as an IDE, I would say it depends.
I use Vim and a few plugins as an IDE, and would totally recommend it!
Although, I would not use it for everything.
The problem with vim mode/plugins/keymaps for any IDE is that it doesn't allow me to be completely free of using my mouse. And honestly, using hjkl to move and a few vim basic commands is mostly making it difficult for nothing IMO. If I have a graphical editor and ctl-F is available, why should I use
/to search something?So to me, it's the real Vim or nothing.
As a SRE (and not a dev), I spend most of my time in a terminal, runnning commands, writing scripts, ansible playbooks, kubernetes manifests...
Doing all that, I find it more productive for me to use Vim with plugins such as : YouCompleteMe, ansible-vim... and stay in my terminal.
But of course if I was working on a full website, desktop application... I would choose a full graphical IDE.
Hi, thanks for the answer. Totally got your angle! I do both web development and DevOps, and I also spend a lot of time doing similar things, writing ansible playbooks bash/python/groovy scripts, configuring openstack, etc. If you spend much time in the terminal, vim is much more comfortable. It's fast and it's always around.
I vim everyday in my 9-5, angular developer work and it's a nightmare. Not because of vim, because of Angular. You shouldn't need a gazplant-like IDE to develop, and I never have any issue with, say, React.
An former coworker of mine used to use the vim keyboard mapping in IntelliJ - I used to pair with him, but I would wind up accidentally locking myself out of edit mode when he would go to the restroom and I tried to use IntelliJ shortcuts when I forgot I was in vim mode. What a pain 😆
I also use a docker container called ubuntu-upstart in my local dev environment which I frequently SSH into. That container doesn't ship with vim, but it ships with vim.tiny which is good enough for doing 99% of things:
iand:wqMy hidden gem is a seemingly obscure editor called Micro. I don't remember how I came across it, but it beats the crap out of Nano, has some pretty useful plugins, and is fairly powerful.
I'm making progress with Vim though...I no longer end up having to Google "how to save and quit vim" on a second computer when I finish my edits :P
I really like vim. I'm also one of the developers who daily use vim on project. I use it on javascript development and etc. Using vim is a commitment 😅.
Hi Richard,
(disclaimer: vim lover here)
I agree with all said above, I even laughed at the HOW TO EXIT place :) I know these jokes very well, but I laugh every time :)
I use vim for IDE, also whenever ssh-ing somewhere I feel very comfortable with all machines having vim installed...
For me the ssh problem is: occasionally I ssh to some machine which has only vi (without the trailing m). Then I feel awkward :)
I personally use vim for practically everything I do and always have and the main reason is because it's simple and straightforward. I don't like IntelliJ or Eclipse because they make simple things easy and hard things hard for me at least, I find there's probably a way of doing it but it's hidden under layers of insanity. I understand vim really well and will always choose it over nearly anything else I suspect for that reason, with plugins it becomes every bit as good as an IDE.
Incidentally I did find debuggers were missing so I wrote my own. Admittedly I shouldnt have to but I now find I can literally do anything I might care about in an IDE.
Still, great post and I enjoyed reading it. Thanks.
Or just run
emacs -nwif you don't have your X11 forwarding...For people who have to use vim in a pinch, they can run "evim". It starts vim in an "easy mode" that works like a "normal editor".
I hadn't known about that - I just played with it on OSX using
vim -yand couldn't figure out how to quit. Searching for "how to quit vim" is a lot easier than "how to quit evim".I never knew I could turn vim into a point and click editor! 💥
I use Vim for all projects, including compiling and running TDD tests. He's great.
*matlab
The best way to use vim is out of vim, e.g. VSCode with vim keymap
But is case of having to ssh, it's still great, especially with some extensions