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As an entrepreneur I also have to consider the cost of onboarding new developers , or the impact of a more obscure framework when I want to sell my business.

It's hard to argue with that reasoning but I think the mindset has gotten to the point where it is self perpetuating SPA/React/Next.js adoption—products are built with React because of developer availability and developers adopt React because of demand. Adoption based on popularity of authoring experience rather than suitability towards the product being developed (Responsible JavaScript refers to this as the bandwagon fallacy).

The typical developer framework discussion revolves around a framework's impact on the developer('s happiness and productivity) rather than the impact on the end user. That facet gets highlighted elsewhere:

The Cost of Javascript Frameworks:
"Good frameworks should provide a better starting point on the essentials (security, accessibility, performance) or have built-in constraints that make it harder to ship something that violates those.

That doesn’t appear to be happening with performance (nor with accessibility, apparently)."

The Three Unattractive Pillars of Web Dev: accessibility, security and performance;

  • "They’re only a problem when they’re missing."
  • "Try and retrofit any of them to your project and you’re going to have a bad time."

Responsible JavaScript:
"Frameworks don’t doom us to build shitty websites but to use them is to accept a certain amount of overhead you can never optimize away. You must step lightly, particularly since the ecosystem of installable plugins and off-the-shelf components available to such architectures can further compound their user-experience problems."


Your experience with Vue is unfortunate, especially if it lead to wasted effort. But disruptions like this aren't limited to the "smaller" frameworks; both Angular and React have had them:

  • Angular was a completely different from AngularJS. AngularJS had LTS until December 31, 2021 but many projects were cut off from modernizing in a gradual manner.
  • Meanwhile there are regularly complaints that React is changing too rapidly or simply changing for the sake of change (a symptom of Facebook's needs not overlapping with some of its OSS user base).
  • Etsy just recently completed migration from React to Preact - adopting React v16 would have required significant updates to their legacy code base.

It's a delicate tradeoff

Clearly it must be the pragmatic choice at times, it just seems that ecosystem/hire-ability considerations have made React the incumbent technology—despite the clear need for alternatives with different sets of priorities.