I'm a self-taught Front End & JS Dev and professional learner with accessibility expertise. I'm passionate about breaking down concepts into relatable concepts, making it more approachable.
I talked to her and she told me where I could improve with ARIA. She asserted that from her experience as a daily screen reader user that saying they are mandatory is a bit dangerous. That's not saying any of us disagree with your assertion. I also find you're being kinda aggressive by stating that us explaining our experience is aggressive.
Not sure how me asking you to listen to her is arrogant on my part. But bye, I guess?
It’s arrogant and aggressive saying that i should “talk” to who use screen readers for real.. supposing that I’m not already doing it and it wasn’t a question. I never said we must use aria-attributes everywhere. Peace and love.
"Aria attributes are mandatory to support screen readers. Using semantic tags is not enough" sounds like you're saying we have to use aria attributes everywhere. It's pretty arrogant to make such blanket statements.
Recommending you listen to people who regularly use screen readers, and likely have more knowledge and experience to add to ours, isn't arrogant or aggressive. It's a reasonable suggestion and a way to be more empathetic as a developer. Calling that "ridiculous" seems more ridiculous to me.
No Kurtis Kemple. Sounds like if you need to provide useful informations to SR you need (are mandatory) aria widgets, states and attributes because there aren’t other ways to do that. It’s so hard to understand? I think they just misunderstood my words without asking what i was meaning.
I talked to her and she told me where I could improve with ARIA. She asserted that from her experience as a daily screen reader user that saying they are mandatory is a bit dangerous. That's not saying any of us disagree with your assertion. I also find you're being kinda aggressive by stating that us explaining our experience is aggressive.
Not sure how me asking you to listen to her is arrogant on my part. But bye, I guess?
It’s arrogant and aggressive saying that i should “talk” to who use screen readers for real.. supposing that I’m not already doing it and it wasn’t a question. I never said we must use aria-attributes everywhere. Peace and love.
"Aria attributes are mandatory to support screen readers. Using semantic tags is not enough" sounds like you're saying we have to use aria attributes everywhere. It's pretty arrogant to make such blanket statements.
Recommending you listen to people who regularly use screen readers, and likely have more knowledge and experience to add to ours, isn't arrogant or aggressive. It's a reasonable suggestion and a way to be more empathetic as a developer. Calling that "ridiculous" seems more ridiculous to me.
No Kurtis Kemple. Sounds like if you need to provide useful informations to SR you need (are mandatory) aria widgets, states and attributes because there aren’t other ways to do that. It’s so hard to understand? I think they just misunderstood my words without asking what i was meaning.
Hey can we all cool it here folks?
As an outsider to this conversation I definitely feel like people are talking past each other.
Thanks a lot.
Yeah. Sorry, it was my fault because i was not so clear with my previous messages (🤔).