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Is Angular Dead in 2022?

Jonathan Gamble on January 25, 2022

In case you're unaware, Google has had an interesting track record in the Framework category. Not all of these are technically frameworks, but can ...

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Berrou • Jan 26 '22

What a waste of time reading this post

Jonathan Gamble • Jan 27 '22

You're probably right 😆

Antonio Sarcevic • Jan 26 '22

SvelteKit FTW :)

Ivan Jeremic • Jan 26 '22

React > Svelte

mellunar • Jan 26 '22 • Edited

Yeah, because it's better to keep on:

import React, { useState } from 'react';
function Component() {
  const [count, setCount] = useState(0);
}

instead of:

let count = 0;

🤷

Ivan Jeremic • Jan 26 '22

You got hooked by the popular talk but lets be real there will always be people who like the react way more its just a function which returns UI no matter ho clean svelte or any new framework that comes out is there will always be people who like the react way more.

Antonio Sarcevic • Jan 27 '22

we got hooked by the underlying philosophy that creating interactive UI doesn't need to be a chore :D

Ivan Jeremic • Jan 27 '22

But it isn't for everyone, as I already said there are people who will always like the react model no matter what comes out because they come maybe more from a programming background first, in programming you build an application by composing functions together that do a certain job. In react you use functions and each one returns a piece of UI and its logic which makes sense and people build UIs that ways easier.

Eduard Jacko • Feb 25 '22 • Edited

@mellunar The React example is not a valid component ;) Maybe you should write an actual simple component as you are pointing to difference between state management only. This is more fair to compare

<script>
    let name = 'world';
</script>
<h1>Hello {name}!</h1>
<button on:click={() => name = "Hi"}>click me</button>



function Greeting() {
  const [state, setState] = useState("world")
  return (
      <>
          <h1>Hello  {state}!</h1>
          <button onClick={() => setState("Hi")}>click me</button>
      </>
  )
}

Ivan Jeremic • Feb 25 '22 • Edited

A javascript function body is your script tag in Svelte the javascript return is your svelte file for markup, some people like programming some like XML style.

Antonio Sarcevic • Mar 11 '22 • Edited

Implying writing HTML isn't programming

Ivan Jeremic • Mar 12 '22

Writing jsx is.

Antonio Sarcevic • Mar 12 '22

Im glad you feel superior for making your life harder 🤣

Ivan Jeremic • Mar 12 '22

I'm sorry for you that your brain can't grasp it.

Antonio Sarcevic • Jan 26 '22

less features, more code, bigger bundle, worse performance ... 🤷‍♂️

Ivan Jeremic • Jan 26 '22

Bigger bundle on hello world apps yes, but once you have an bigger app react is smaller. Also less built in features(maybe) but overall more feature because of ecosystem, worst performance, nahh do you feel it?

Adan Ulloa • Jan 26 '22

Svelte is faster because of the way it was designed without the virtual dom. That doesnt mean you will feel the diference on a modern pc. But been faster means that your application will be compatible with older devices or IoT devices which doesnt have that big of a hardware.

SergDev • Jan 26 '22 • Edited

There's no silver bullet. The framework we choose is really depends on the task (and the team we working with). Maybe I would not go with Angular for some lightweight site, but for complex enterprise application I believe Angular may be a good choice.

Kristher Vidal • Jul 3 '22

@jdgamble555

"You learned Angular through fireship.io, although he now prefers React (SMH)"

I think he still prefers angular, but React is where the views are.

so yeah so sad...

Lars Rye Jeppesen • Jan 26 '22

Our enterprice app, with 4 language versions compiled at build time, takes 1 min to compile.

Wth are you doing with your code?

Jonathan Gamble • Jan 26 '22

Sorry, I was referring to installing Angular Universal with all its dependencies on Cloud Run, not a local compile.

Lars Rye Jeppesen • Jan 26 '22

ah makes sense. thanks

Templar++ • Jan 26 '22 • Edited

Angular seems pretty much dead actually according to insights.stackoverflow.com/trends?...

Joel Nieto • Jan 27 '22

You know that the line you're highlighting isn't Angular, right?

Eduard Jacko • Feb 25 '22 • Edited

true. but still, the green is dying slowly

Sean Perkins • Jan 26 '22

Ionic Framework developer here; Ionic's components are built with web components. We ship framework specific packages to help with framework integrations (React, Angular and Vue).

No Angular isn't dead.

The packages you mention as dead are just the predecessors to the current packages.

Thank you for acknowledging that Ionic isn't from Google. That is factual.

Eduard Jacko • Feb 25 '22

You know, Microsoft is moving to use react-native in UWP so you are not right saying "Google and Microsoft build most of their apps with it." Microsoft did some experiments with Angular but they run away from it as fast as they could.

docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/d...

Andrew Baisden • Jan 29 '22

Angular and JQuery don't get a lot of love anymore 😂

mellunar • Jan 26 '22

React is the one that should be dead

Liviu Lupei • Jan 26 '22

The death of Angular was really visible on our side.

Lots of folks who were using Protractor for testing switched to Endtest.

Mike Santo • Feb 7 '22

That could be due to the team's plan to deprecate Protractor by the end of the year.

Liviu Lupei • Feb 7 '22

Oh, yes. That's a known fact.

Mike Graham • Jan 27 '22

thank you sir - great perspective... building enterprise apps myself. love angular :)

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Avishek Das • Mar 12 '22

This dude knows only one way to write clickbait titles, 'This technology is dead'.

Paul ODell • May 6 '22

Sorry guys. Flutter is the way to go.

Jan Küster • Feb 1 '22 • Edited

You know that a framework became mature and stable when people say it's dead while at the same time it has an ongoing roadmap and zillions of apps running at production.

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