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Jay Jeckel

There's also the in general overlooked fact that many fundamentals in computer science are ignored in bootcamps or by self-taught programmers.

Yea, and those same fundamentals are also ignored by a lot of students in university. I can teach the fundamentals to a self-taught coder that somehow missed learning them, but nothing can be done with someone that ignored their chance to learn and still wants to be hired just because they have a fancy piece of paper with their name on it.

Someone that wants to learn and be a good coder will learn and be a good coder regardless of self-teaching or getting a degree. And someone that doesn't want to learn won't learn no matter how many classes they sit through or pieces of paper they get their name on.