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Discussion on: Sexism, Racism, Toxic Positivity, and TailwindCSS

 
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Andrey Sitnik

I didn’t. I am calling CSS community in general toxic to CSS authors. Many popular people in CSS community are hostile to CSS tooling and use their public channels to prevent CSS toolings from having discussion platforms. It leads to more conflicts and lack of good discussion about CSS tooling limits.

I mantioned that Sara is better than rest of community.

Sorry, English is not my native language. I am guest on your territory.

 
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Cher

Apologies, I just wanted to clarify. There's no need to apologize for the language barrier. I'm happy to take the extra time to ensure we are understanding each other.

I agree that many people in the development community, not just CSS, are toxic to each other, not just the authors of tools. It's also to folks like Sara who simply make educational content. And in many cases, the authors and communities around those tools are also aggressively toxic to outsiders.

Even Adam's own marketing is quite flagrant to the CSS community who create and educate "best practice" paradigms like BEM.

It is a terrible framing to begin with to critique and work to make better tools, I absolutely agree.

 
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Andrey Sitnik

I see a big difference in community and tools communications in CSS and rest of the fields.

  • JS’s TC39 invited Babel author to speak abut polyfills lmits on their meeting, but CSSWG is trying to avoid CSS polyfil community.
  • I know a few cases, when popular people (no Sara) keeps their article outdated to hide new CSS tooling features from the community. Which is insane for JS community.
  • I can’t remember whem podcasts invisted CSS tooling authors.
  • Big important releases and initiatives were motly ignored by CSS opinion leaders (for instance, when Autoprefixer/Browserslist started to fight for brower diversity against US’s trends to ignore Chinese browers on gobal websites).

I beleave that it is a part of conflict between JS and CS community. But CSS tooling is not part of JS world to be treated with this hostile. We try to give a more power to CSS community to help them in this conflict.

And of course, it doesn’t excuse toxic behaviour. But this conflict is a good reason to highlight this unique conflict beween the community and CSS tooling.

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