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Discussion on: Time to change how we do Stand-Ups

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Eugene Vedensky

I like your optimism. I do think these problems are solvable in the way you described, but there is one caveat to all of this: none of this works without team buy-in.

If the team doesn't think punctuality is important and is consistently five to ten mins late what can you do?

Furthermore, even if you have a moderator like a scrum master, I've found most scrum masters to be pretty passive in their approach to moderation, favoring conversations after stand up rather than correcting in the moment. Even the few that do attempt to correct in the moment are often not taken seriously.

I feel like a lot of this kind of reduces to, does your team give a shit enough to respect the rules of standup? In my experience most don't, and I can't imagine most corporate environments getting rid of developers / team-members for being late to stand ups.

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simonhaisz • Edited

I agree with Martin, you have more fundamental issues that are the root cause of this issue and a virtual standup isn't going to fix them. All that can do is reduce the 'cost' of your bad standups.

Fundamentally it seems you have 3 problems:

  1. people who do not respect scrum
  2. people who do not understand scrum (which could be the cause of #1)
  3. people who do not respect each other

3 is the most important and if it persist is a sign of a toxic work environment. You said that you brought this issue up but nothing happened. How and who you raised it to is important. Complaining that people should be on time for standup to the team is less likely to get results than getting the team to agree in a retrospective that being late and wasting other people's time is bad and putting it in the 'things to be improve' column or raising it to management that a few peoples conduct is wasting the rest of the teams time. In my experience management hates wasting their precious technical resources time (unless they're the one doing it :P) and will do something. It could be that the answer is to just cancel all standups, if they're not providing value.