TL;DR: Mint is a typed programming language which compiles to JavaScript for building single page applications. https://www.mint-lang.com
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You forget Dart in the list of typed language. Furthermore dart is the language of flutter.io therefore you will learn to develop progressive web app, web components and native application for Android and iOS. Conclusion it is better to learn Dart if you want to learn a strong types language.
I love to see Innovation and wheel reinvention (not saying it in a bad way). People often like to say why to create something that has already been created, but that's precisely how we arrived to the loved angular/react/vue mainstream combo today, the three reinvented someone else's wheel and I'm pretty sure people often said that when these things were very new.
I think new concepts, langs like these are the reflection of how our actual wheels are going, and this seems a fine and precise work on how to correct some issues that people are still facing today.
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I would just ask if there's the intention of using mint to compile web component projects (something like what polymer tries to do), I think this is a good place where Mint can target and be succesfull taking in mind that components are already the building blocks of the language.
Thank you for that comment!
It could certainly be compiled to web components, it's technically possible, but I don't think it's the right way to go:
the spec is not very well supported: caniuse.com/#search=web%20components it can be polyfilled but that's not ideal.
if components would be reused outside of the language then we would lose type safety or we would need to implement runtime type checking on the boundaries.
there is no spec as far as I am aware for virtual DOM to be implemented in a browser, dropping this requirement would mean that either the implementation still have to be in the application or we would lose performance rendering with
innerHTML.We need to add this to the vast list of existing javascript frameworks. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ja...
Keep'em coming. It is never enough.
Thanks for the comment!
The language and the compiler is structured to be easily extendable, so supporting future patterns should be easy.
It's not likely, as WASM is still very young, maybe once it matured enough. Check out this issue for further information: github.com/mint-lang/mint/issues/4...
No, if there is enough interest one can be created.
A couple of other languages, that compiled to JS sort of "died" in the past year, yet you create a new one. So the most serious questions are:
Thank you for the comment, here are my answers:
As you wrote TypeScript is very similar to JavaScript and Mint is very different from both, it has more things in common with Elm or Reason so that can be one of the factors. I think that the main reason people might use Mint is that it's compact, it has all the tools needed in one single binary, only one thing to learn.
The idea for a decentralized package manager is actually coming from the Crystal programming language (which the compiler is written in), it seems to be working for them so far. It really simplifies things because any Git repository can be a package so there are no servers to manage, and for private packages the only thing needed is an SSH key.
NPM packages are not compatible with Mint packages, it's easy to include external JavaScript files in a package so porting popular libraries should not be a big issue.
It will be difficult for sure. I am planning to write many posts about the parts of the language for education purposes, posts about how it compares to an other language, and Mint packages and applications for demonstration purposes.
What language Mint is similar to is irrelevant. If the language is superior to another is also irrelevant. Take for example PHP - it's not superior to any language. It's actually a big pile of crap, yet it became popular.
If you will compete with other languages you need to consider all other pieces of the ecosystem like NPM packages and compatibility with already existing software. TypeScript is very close to JS and it can use existing NPM packages without any effort. With minimal effort they get type information too.
JS is very very popular at the moment, not so sure about Elm and definitely not Crystal or Reason (I had to google these and I have over 20 years of experience and I tend to keep the pace and know what is going on around here).
My point is, that choosing this language over JS or TypeScript for a project seems to be a hard business decision and only a few companies may risk investing in it...
Choosing to use a hybrid app platform can be a tough decision, especially with how many choices developers have now adays: Cordova, Ionic, NativeScript, React Native, Flutter... The list goes on and on.
There are going to be pros and cons with all of these options if you compare them to true native apps: managing 2 sources vs 1 (which, if you're lucky, won't turn into 3), the amount of support you can get, the tools and libraries available to you, etc.
Here are some perspectives from individuals who have used these frameworks professionally:
youtu.be/MeBNODUCLfc
medium.com/airbnb-engineering/suns...
A good comparison of hybrid app frameworks:
youtu.be/rb8smP_xTTY
Okay, so why not Elm? A fairly well established strongly typed language that compiles to JS and does most things that you mention ...
Thanks for the comment!
I'm going to write a more lengthy post about it, but in short:
I used Elm for a while, it is a nice developer experience. It made me realize that there is a better way to develop things. I tried to expand that ecosystem and contribute to the community (check out my Github repositories if like) but it didn't turn out well, since my vision is different then their core teams.
But in my experience (and opinion) it's really restricting (both development and community wise), it has a lot of unnecessary boilerplate an doesn't address the main issues well:
I could probably go on for a while but so I'll stop now :)
Elm is a pure FP language, which is clearly not for everyone, that's probably the issue. Thanks for this incredible project (Mint lang), putting together a completely new programming language with all of the tooling around it ... impressive!
Question: how does this work with things like React, Virtual DOM, etcetera? Could you write React apps in Mint?
(however it's not recommended yet for production purposes? "Mint is currently in alpha stage, although it's usable for testing purposes")
Going to check this out. Looks refreshing - hence a really good name. :)
Lol to be honest those steps mentioned above sounds just like my process with frameworks/libraries like Angular or React.....
Looks cool ! I'll keep an eye on this for sure 🤔
It's gaining a lot of popularity. Flutter especially is gaining a lot of popularity.