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Functional Javascript • Edited

I've tried to like Firefox for years but the UX is just not there.

  • It's slow to load.
  • No key-binding customization
  • The bookmark manager is effectively unusable
  • Upgrades have wiped out my tabs and bookmarks multiple times
  • Weird layouts — it's like they out-innovate themselves, so the whole software experience is mostly disorienting
  • Google must not like them, because the youtube experience is substandard

Vivaldi

I've been quite happy using Vivaldi.
Pros and Cons listed here:
dev.to/functional_js/my-choice-of-...

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maxdevjs • Edited

@functional_js , do you refer to Firefox slowness on MacOS or...?

This is interesting... One thing that made me switch from Chrome to Firefox has been the bookmark manager: not that marvel, but much better.

But yes, YouTube experience became somewhat "funny" especially in the last weeks.

It is a while that I do not check Vivaldi, going to give it another try :)

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Functional Javascript • Edited

I've been running Firefox since yesterday afternoon, to check how well it works on its latest version.

It's been pretty good. Pretty performant.
I've been writing down the pros and cons as I use it.

I notice the bookmarks list is now similar to Vivaldi's (like a File Explorer) but the Vivaldi bookmark manager still is much better.

Here are some Firefox cons I've written down:

  • a black transition screen when switching to fullscreen of a vid
  • invasive popover message each time you fullscreen a video
  • bookmark leftpane doesn't have count of bookmarks in each folder, and doesn't seem to have shortcut keys for moving bookmarks around
  • the ctrl-f or F3 find feature opens a UI widget that resizes the viewport
  • in youtube, the caption keep moving back to the default position on the bottom after the end of each sentence refresh
  • no separate search engine search bar, allowing a dropdown to select the default search engine, though I was able to assign letters to each search engine, like "g" for google, to prefix each search with. UPDATE: I found in the settings you can add a dedicated search bar to the toolbar. You can set focus in it with ctrl-E, just like in Vivaldi.
  • nearly no customization
  • no custom keybindings

Update

After 24 hours of having the Firefox browser open, playing videos (whether youtube or bitchute or others) is getting VERY sluggish and really sucking up CPU. Non-video tabs are running fine.

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maxdevjs • Edited

Interesting... I did not stress test Vivaldi yet, just set it up partially (and found it has a white transition screen when switching to fullscreen of a video :) ).

Some times a few FF extensions get crazy, eating a lot of RAM. I had to quit and relaunch the browser a couple times after a few weeks of uninterrupted use, otherwise I restart it only after an update.

Do you mind to repost your comment here?