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Fran├žois CHAUSSIN

Not sure WordPress helps PHP to evolve, ans being popular. I xould Say the exact inverse

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Anders Bj├Ârkland Author

Perhaps a bad indicator of being part of the future of PHP, but the WordPress project is not part of the Framework Interop Group (PHP-FIG). This group has given some sensible recommendations and standards we can relate to, and some of these recommendations may not go over so well with WordPress. Just from the standards perspective I could agree with you.

But still... I think WordPress is a huge part of why there are so many websites running on PHP. I've seen WP developers adopting some good standards, but (if I understand you correctly) I agree that it isn't WordPress that is pushing our language forward. As big and somewhat unwieldy the WP project is, I can see how they wouldn't like to see deprecations of features it uses. So, all in all, WP is still a huge part of PHP - but it's not where we look for the next evolution of the language.

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Anders Bj├Ârkland Author

Yeah, WP has become huge with the features that was, not the ones that will be. We find other projects driving the evolution now. Send or Laminas was huge, and JetBrains has an interesting relation with the language. But there are so many other projects driving the evolution now. But WP was a major factor of driving many hosting services to support PHP.

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Fran├žois CHAUSSIN

I have no hate with wp, i like using it for cheap projects. I agree with you that PHP credibility comes from entities like zend, jetbrain, sensiolabs, php-fig..., who are helping to keep this language to be enterprise usable, and having a huge open source ecosystem (with mature projects like WP).
If WordPress is popular it is because it works on the LAMP stack, and LAMP stack is not popular thanks to WordPress.