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I indeed attempted Le Wagon bootcamp last winter in Paris. Before th...
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Thank you very much for sharing your insights. I must say, I disagree with other users who call it "paid material" — it's clear to me that your perspective is quite unbiased (especially your points on JavaScript!). I’m a 50-year-old former engineering student turned lawyer, but I’ve always had a keen interest in programming (I even learned some C back in my engineering days). I’m planning to attend Le Wagon in Paris by 2025 and aim to land a coding job afterward (I guess it is time to pursue a little bit of carreer change here). I know it’ll be a challenge, but I’m sure it will also be incredibly stimulating!
@etienneburdet pretty accurate review. Although i must add that things might be very different depending on the City u attend. My group had 8 people and i am the only one coding ( 2 of them students, 2 of them pass time hiatus kind of thing and the rest just bored wives/girls with rich boyfriends/husbands that were bored at home). It was pretty clear since the first weeks of the bootcamp who was there to learn and who wasn't. At the beginning of 8th week, i had a project-mate who did not know how to write a if/else statement, how to open rails console or even how to search for a bug on google/stackoverflow. Completley waste of money and time for them, and for me i might add, since this was the general level of the class, teachers had to go slower and explain simple and basic stuff every day, thus cutting away from the time of learning new stuff. None of my colleagues did even 20% of the pre-btoocamp "mandatory" courses. I am still happy i did the bootcamp because the time and money investment pushed me into working hard before during and after the bootcamp to get to a ready to hire level. So if i would to do it again, i would still do Le Wagon but make sure to go to a city with more students in a group and good teachers.
I disagree with your review. I did the le wagon bootcamp last year. The teachers were ok, but one or two were arseholes.
I didnt gel with my batch at all, they were all woke liberal corporate types.
The bootcamp is extremely intense and stressful, and boring too I found.
6 months later and I still haven't found a job. My advice is pay 20 euro for a udemy self study course. Bootcamps are a rip off and a marketing trick.
Sounds to me like you cant handle the stress. That's not le wagons fault. Also if you worry about peoples political views you are not professional at all. Your attitude stinks. I wouldn't hire you with that mindset.
Really sorry you didn't like it :(
I really can't back you on the udemy course. I did both, some are pretty good, but it's really not the same thing to get a career started and learn about core development concepts. At least readers get some diverse opinion :)
It was rubbish mainly. LW are masters at marketing sucking in gullible people. Overpriced crap that you can learn yourself.
Sounds like you are a arshole yourself
How do you choose a bootcamp? Can you trust the reviews (you can't, because companies can pay to have them removed)? Le wagon cut my friend's access after they missed two weeks of the course. They had already paid the full fees £7000+ and were only two months in. No mention of this procedure or warning in contracts or onboarding information. This area of the industry needs better regulation.
This looks like another paid/controlled review. FYI, Le Wagon tracks all the students' public reviews and contacts them personally if they don't like them or are approved, so hands down you can't trust anything you read about them. The reason most people don't land a dev job after the Wagon is that they are meant to be cheap labor: accepting a 15$ hourly rate after 6 months of hard non paid work and quitting a corporate job is not an option for anyone over 21 years old. Again, Le Wagon promises a dream job and a dream life, but only delivers an in-person course you could follow at Udemy with some self-discipline. Sort of an Instagram life. Worse waste of money I have ever done. But hey, they give away free beers every week.
No, nope, never heard about that, no, yes-but no, yep they are hard on insta stuff, you're the only judge—I'm 3 years into my job, now a senior front-end though.
Read my review carefully and you'll see that everything you mention is there (hype, half of people not being dev etc.).
Hey, I just wanted to say that I thoroughly enjoyed the read. I'm attending the Le Wagon part-time Bootcamp in September here in Melbourne and this was probably one of the better reviews I've read.
So glad it helped ! Enjoy your time at Le Wagon ;)
Hey @etienneburdet thanks for your feedback. I enrolled in the upcoming January 2023 bootcamp in Rennes, and this is extremely useful and reassuring to read. I'm really looking forward to seeing how it goes on my end.
Hello i am new to the field of web development however i have studied for couple of hours and gaining some insights about html , css, java , react etc .
After deciding to participate on a 9 weeks class in Tokyo's Le wagon i found out a lot of bad reviews, can someone please tell me the learning schedule of course cuz i read most of the time is Ruby and we all know Ruby is not so popular to find a job .
those who participated please help me out !
It is only Ruby for the first 3 weeks, mainly Ruby for the 6 firsts and then split between Rails and frontend.
It's not like it's crazy important either, you will have to learn a tech stack anyways when getting into a job.