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Discussion on: What are your thoughts on the whole 10x engineer viral discussion?

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Michiel Hendriks • Edited

Fact: The best programmers are up to 28 times better than the worst programmers, according to “individual differences” research. Given that their pay is never commensurate, they are the biggest bargains in the software field.

From Robert L. Glass's book Facts and Fallacies of Software Engineering

It's more of a 28x than 10x. Yes, the book is old, and the sources for this fact is even older. But even with new research you will come up with similar high 'x' numbers.

As for why, Robert has this to say

The problem is—and of course there is a problem, since we are not acting on this fact in our field—we don’t know how to identify those “best” people. We have struggled over the years with programmer aptitude tests and certified data processor exams and the ACM self-assessment programs, and the bottom line, after a lot of blood and sweat and perhaps even tears were spent on them, was that the correlation between test scores and on-the-job performance is nil.

I am pretty confident this has not changed.

Yes, 10x-ers exist. But moving this 10x-er to a different environment can turn them into a 5x-er. A 1x-er can grow into a 10x-er in the same place. It is not the individual, it is the individual within its environment.

Dolphins are really fast in the water. But on land, they struggle.

Want 10x-ers in your company? Then get rid of things which get into the way of your devs' productivity and hapiness. You have to ask them what these obstructions are, because they are not the same. But generally getting rid of open-floor plans has a boost in productivity. A ping-pong table does not.

As finishing remark, when your whole team goes from 1x to 2x; are they still 1x or 2x? Relatively speaking between peers they are still 1x, but compared to the past they are 2x. 🤔

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Andrew (he/him)

This is the best response in this entire discussion.

"...if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."

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Joe Zack

The tests they used for the original (and subsequent) experiments are controversial. Small sample sizes, reliance on metrics that are easily quantifiable, unrealistic tests. Makes it so any results like this have to be taken with a grain of salt. Despite all the problems I'd love to see more and better tests done on stuff like this.

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Michiel Hendriks

I don't believe it is possible to create a test which objectively measures productivity of a software developer.

There are simply too many variables.