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Discussion on: Negotiating is hard.

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Eli Bierman • Edited

That art is awesome! Such a cool format for summarizing the podcast content.

This is such an important topic. I really like the tactic of keeping a record of your contributions, and presenting it in a way that the company has shown that they value. I love the phrase "shape of seniority," and it really can be so different at different companies.

I've heard a lot of people (mostly women) express the feeling that they don't want to negotiate because they don't want to come off as ungrateful for the opportunity. As an employee it feels super personal, but for the employer it is just a business transaction. I think it can be helpful to try to shift perspective from "selling yourself" to "selling the service you offer." It makes it less personal and emotionally draining, and aligns better with the employer's perspective.

The employer is only engaging in the transaction because the value your service generates for their business is greater than the cost of your salary + benefits. Sometimes employers try to make it personal and make you feel guilty or ungrateful as a negotiation tactic. You can always redirect to the value that your service offers the business.

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Amy Codes

Thanks for pointing that out! And yeah. I think its so easy for people to realize that a business at the end of the day is still a business. I also think that people forget that its not about feeling grateful or not to your employer. Its more about what services you offer in exchange for money.