Introduction
Typescript is a typed superset of Javascript. Because it is a superset, any valid Javascript is therefore valid Typescript....
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Its my unpopular opinion that
typescriptis a flopped product when the full power of ES6 is already available to you. More than 95% browsers of the world already support ES6 and besides, ES6/JavaScript is a standard unlike TS which is a Microsoft product.Only one high-profile project uses TS and that is Angular2 and there is also a whole lot of mystery about why Google adopted TS in Angular2 despite it being a competitor's product.
Finally, maybe I'm prejudiced because I'm coming from Python/PHP background but I don't like static typing very much. It restricts you in expressiveness especially when it comes to creating complex structures like classes and and interfaces. In fact, a dynamic language like python has no need for interfaces or even classes, modules themselves have the flexibility and modularity to help you build whatever you want.
About TS vs ES6. The debate is totally closed when even Babel 7 enhanced the babel compiler to transform typescript annotation to AST
About what you this is flexibility and modularity, I have one simple example where PHP & Python fail with dynamic typing
(Hope I have been clear)
Only true when you don't have a testing suite. Which is obvious to have when you are doing some serious work.
With TypeScript itβs possible to write code such that you donβt have to write tests at all to validate certain scenarios. Iβll be writing about that in a future article.
Well, I was talking in general about dynamic typed languages. However, even if we consider that all languages have an X technology like typescript. Why would someone decides that all current and future devs should know about that X technology to avoid such scenarios. While they can simply use universal knowledge such as unit testing or acceptance testing, with minimum learning curve, to ensure a functional app.
Anyway, even if you use typescript there's no escape from testing.
Personally, I don't consider the fact that regression is catchable at compile time as a game changer.
TypeScript will and should not prevent you from writing tests, and it never came to my mind to think about it like that. Also, comparing ES6 vs. TypeScript is misleading. ES6 is simply a new syntax for JavaScript. Since TypeScript is a superset of JavaScript, so of course it is also for ES6.
But let's break down testing. Assuming you have written your test and only considering type errors, it might look like that (though you might automate some steps):
With TypeScript:
The point is, TypeScript prevents you from making obvious mistakes very early on. Additionally, and I found this to be very useful, you are reminded if variables can be undefined or null. Even if you write tests, you might very well forget to test certain cases. But again, TypeScript should not free you from thinking about all cases that can happen, but it could serve as an additional layer of testing.
Indeed, it's super powerful to have something like realtime testing for your code. However, I still think it's a matter of preferences not a must have technology. I don't like the idea of centralized ecosystem around Microsoft products ( I'm not Microsoft hater tho ). I want to use my editor of choice that not necessarily supports typescript realtime checks. I run tests only once at the end to ensure no regression is happened and my logic is right ( which means my types are right too ).
During writing code HMR and linters are supper enough in my opinion.
Yes, testing is great. But when I converted my old JS code to TS code, I was able to delete 500 lines of test code that was just checking if functions were passing the correct type. I donβt have to check that anymore because TypeScript checks it for me. Bye bye
jest.expect().toHaveBeenCalledWith(expect.any<string>, expect.any<number>)TypeScript is a linter. In fact itβs tsc runner uses the same AST parsing that EsLint uses.
If youβre not a Microsoft hater, then why mention it at all? Microsoft has really doubled down on open source technology with TypeScript, VSCode, and .NET Core (which typically runs on Linux which is amazing for a company that used to revolve around their operating system sales).
You got rid of 500 lines of test but you sacrificed flexibility. What if a new JavaScript developer ( who is not familiar with typescript ) joins your team? or your company should be exclusive for typescript developers?
Keeping JS or migrating to TS it's a decision that has pros and cons on both situations. It's up to you or to your company to decide what suits you the best and what to sacrifice.
Typically, a linter does not enforce you to use a specific syntax neither the ability to transpile. TypeScript is a superset so technically it's a programming language itself.
I mentioned it just to make it clear that my opinion is not biased by hatred toward Microsoft still you confused me with a Microsoft's hater.
Personally, I'm very comfortable with many of Microsoft products, I'm writing this from Win10 and I use VSCode occasionally but this does not mean I'll automatically praise any product Microsoft launch.
Though, I'm super happy with the recent contributions Microsoft has made for the open-source community.
I would be really excited to pair-program with them until they feel comfortable with TypeScript. I'd be really excited to mentor them and to show the value of clearly communicating yourself in code. It's one of the reasons why I'm so passionate about this series I'm writing on TypeScript's emotional/conversational value: dev.to/cubiclebuddha/communicating...
I would never dictate the technology for an entire company. The best companies are polyglot and supportive of each team's needs. Now as far as the teams that I lead, I make sure that my teams can develop new features very quickly without having to spend a lot of time fixing old bugs that crop up. So my team members have really gotten used to TypeScript and some have learned to love it.
This is the issue that made me enter the conversation in the first place. Why would you decide that they should use TypeScript. It's okay if that's what your team is comfortable with but this will narrow down your options in term of hiring new talented JavaScript developers ( who are not necessarily interested in TypeScript ).
Of course, I meant is it okay for your company to use both JavaScript and TypeScript for its projects ?
Yes, a company should be free to have teams that use whatever language that makes them the most productive.
I really can't see how using TS sacrifice flexibility... On the contrary I've gained a lot more...
I meant flexibility in term of expanding the team or sharing the code as not all JS developers required to know TS.
Despite that, I'm really interested to know more about TS and what flexibility it gave you ?
I used to be one of those anti-static typing people; after using Typescript in enterprise projects I'm totally on the other side of the fence now.
The power in Typescript comes mostly from the tooling around it. VS Code can autocomplete, or tell you the structure of what functions arguments are expected. The IDE automatically yells if we get types wrong without having to switch back and forth between a browser. This is all huge when working in dev teams. Small or large!
Luckily Typescript is a lot less strict than most statically typed languages due to duck typing. This a long with the
anytype makes it pretty cool we can switch the lever between dynamically to statically typed at any time.^^^ You summed it up nicely π
I disliked js.I never liked writing frontend code until typescript came along.
Too much time spent on silly typos. Too much time writing null/undefined/0/[] checks. Or spent time protecting method arguments from messing up string and number addition. I can code faster, with less errors, without having to re-reference the documentation constantly. I can rename a variable and be sure it gets updated everywhere. Whats not to like? Well, writing good type definition files for imported js libs can be a chore, but thats only done once.
We switched from Vanilla JS to TS a few months ago which corresponded to starting with Preact. I would now never go back. Code is easier to follow, and it has caught more potential bugs than I can count.
Slowly incremented the strictness settings, and now am running with the full strict set. It takes some time to get used to the slightly different workflow, but IMO it really feels nice once you are used to it. I'm at the point were I look at all my programming through what types variables will be (re Python [3.7 does have some TS like syntax for speccing types]).
It has for sure improved my code quality.
On my initiative we chose to use TypeScript on our new Node.js project - I would never go back to writing plain JavaScript. Being the strong advocate of static typing, I almost instantly liked the whole idea of TypeScript (even though it's not statically but gradual typing) and the ability it gives me to write huge JavaScript applications in a sane way. Even though I sometimes spend more time thinking how I should structure the code, I feel much much better knowing I won't make some stupid mistakes which you will eventually make using JavaScript no matter how good you are. TypeScript + class-validator and you can sleep well at night. And of course, I'm always using full strictness :)
I'm a static-types-or-its-wrong zealot cause it has saved me lots of times. ;)
Alan, you've gained an automatic follower. I'm also a static type zealot haha. I like it so much that I started a series of articles to try and explain the emotional advantages of TypeScript to non-TS people:
dev.to/cubiclebuddha/communicating...
Processing media files and js files is very different for a browser in terms of performance.
Most of web frameworks are trying to reduce their bundle size with every major release. Svelte was born because of this need.
I'm just curious how many KB Kotlin adds to a js bundle, because I really don't know. This information might help me to consider Kotlin as the main language for my next project.
Hours of unnecessary development time wasted to manually fix untyped mess,
undefined is not a functionkind of bug, for starter.Had the pleasure to dive and fix that kind of issue, hope it never happen again.
At the beginning transitioning was hard because of the paradigm shift. It was worth it. Keep doing it.
Better quality in the code? Yes.
Typescript change the culture of the devs actually. Making them more careful and at the same time more relaxed on writing code and not worrying to find some
undefined is not a functionkind of bug.I did notice using Typescript in a big project. Changes to a module that is a dependency to a lot of other codes doesn't seem as hard as when doing it in JS. Of course changes are mostly evil. It's better reduce changes with the right code architecture.
One thing that you might want to care about when you're using typescript, it doesn't help with your javascript code runtime. I found that using io-ts helps a lot (github.com/gcanti/io-ts). It sort of introduce a decoder to your javascript code so that it can decode unknown or any type to an exact type on runtime. Put decoder on network calls and storage accesses and your app would be resilient af.
Happy coding
How was your experience transitioning from vanilla Javascript?
Did you notice better quality in the code?
Nope, and I think it's because code quality equals to developer quality. What I've seen is that the code is easier to understand because you don't have to guess the types of the variables, thus speeding everything A LOT. Guessing values is a hell in dynamic languages...
How did Typescript change the development type?
Not sure what you mean by development type, but as I said: a Typescript codebase is multiple times easier to adopt than a vanilla JS codebase IMO.
I've never worked with Typescript in a big team, but I can extrapolate and say that it would be immensely beneficial.
Kotlin requires to include the helper .js file in order to process a project's code in runtime. What is
kotlin.jsfilesize nowdays?So for my open-source video game Swap'N'Pop I changed it from CoffeeScript to TypeScript in hopes that it would improve collaboration and lead to fewer mistakes and I believe this conversion was successful.
I do prefer dynamic and implicit languages though having everyone be able to infer what they should do or find how to do something paired with their skill level created too much friction and this is where Typescript excelled.
When we used TypeScript I relaxed the strictness because it was too much for some to adhere to.
So I am also conflicted with TypeScript.
A lot of the new built-in types that TypeScript has added in newer versions make it easier to get more dynamic without sacrificing code quality. Generics also help a lot.
Because of strict TypeScript, my QA coworker wasn't able to find many bugs. They were more able to focus on automation. I have become comfortable sharing my code with QA sooner. All positives in my opinion.
I hated TS at first but after trying to refactor app that uses TS just once i fell in love with the language immediately.
You keep saying that you can eliminate extra KB in js by compressing media assets. But JS is the most expensive part of a website to process by the browser and 200KB of JS !== 200KB of JPG.
Kotlin default package is 838KB. Is it correct that by introducing Kotlin to a project, I add almost 1MB of JS to my bundle? If it's the case, I'm not surprised that there are no popular websites made with Kotlin.
What do you mean? React, Angular, and Vue all support TypeScript.
The Neil I'm know.
Love your blog btw.
Cheers.