It's not that I have anything against PHP. I have been a very avid PHP user myself and I like PHP very much. I have used it to create a lot of websites and applications.
But is it relevant now to learn for new users considering I only see a very few engagement on framework like Laravel/ WordPress? and other programming languages are gaining popularity on terms of ease, convenience on development and app processing speed?
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PHP powers the majority of websites at the moment. Over 1/3 of the Internet is WordPress.
I use PHP because there's a demand for it. I couple it with several other languages on both back and front end development.
The progress the language has made over the last few years is a statement of its intention for longevity.
Yes the intention of the php guys and their vision is actually commendable along with c, cpp, javascript and java.
Always have given tough competition
just becuz im in love with laravel and its ecosystem ๐๐
I love the simplicity. But a career is difficult and also the client expectations on the client side. Don't you think it will be phased out very soon
what do your
client sidemean?cuz if its about the frontend, the ux ui thing, then nothing wrong with php or laravel. I recommend you to try vue/react/svelte + api, or vue/react/svelte + inertia, or just livewire is enuf :v
if you mean the performance, I think php is pretty fast. Still feel laravel kinda slow? Meet Phalcon :v
To sum up, My servers can handle 10 times the traffic if they weren't busy apologizing for my own shit code base
Thing is you still need to learn js framework with php to speed up the performance in the UI side. Also these days js frameworks can work with both frontend and backend
Need pointers here cuz so many people have ditched php already here
well then, lemme introduce you to Livewire
and here are something you might get confuse with Livewire
Hmm. Thanks I will checkout their GitHub and learn about it. Something interesting
Because I am not an employee who needs to keep up with whatever language is in fashion just to keep getting paid. Instead of having just a few years experience in the latest fad, I have 25+ years experience with PHP, HTML, and Javascript.
Nice.
Do you frequently use any php based framework
I use Slim.
I'm developer PHP in Brazil and i don't regret learning the language.
Not just because of the number of projects, but the language power. PHP is constancly updating your resources, has a huge community and much to envolve yet.
PHP is linear, not is hype of the languages, but endures over the years. PHP will survive if the community keeps it active, if WE use it to develop new projects and technologies.
I'm a entusiast of the PHP because him has a great power and a long future.
This not exclude new technologies that merge with PHP and your stack.
One stack not exclude other stack.
I agree PHP is powerful and used by a lot. But do you also plan on to learn any other language apart from PHP in the future
To quote Bane. I was born in it, molded by it. Oh well, not really but it definitely was the first language I got really proficient in (after Perl). I still grab it out of my toolbox when I need to hack something together quick or demo a concept. I mean, it even has a webserver built-in for for that purpose!
But to be a bit more serious, PHP is going to be around for a -long- time. Some of the webs most successful projects like WordPress aren't going anywhere any time soon. Plus it's actually developed in to a pretty decent language over the years. I remember starting out on version 3 and oh boy did it suck. But coming from Perl it was actually a breath of fresh air.
The need of a server software to parse the php code.... dont you think makes it cumbersome as compared to javascript, golang, etc
My website yoursunny.com is proudly powered by PHP, without any frameworks or databases. Compared to 2008, most of the website is static now, but there are some dynamic sections, such as the list of random blog posts on the homepage that refreshes automatically.
PHP is easy to deploy. I upload the script to a folder under nginx, and it works.
For every Node or Go service, I have to (1) assign IP address and port, (2) start the service via pm2 or systemd, (3) configure reverse proxy in nginx or Cloudflare.
Agreed. You have to restart everytime a new code is added in other languages
Google the fastest growing language in 2020.
No matter what people say or do.
There is high demand for PHP developers, it's a good skill to have.
I myself plan to learn it ๐
I'm no longer use PHP but, website creator business in my country seems to like to use a shared hosting which only support LAMP stack. That's why many people still using PHP.
Yes this is true. It must be a difficult business for shared hosting servers to compete against AWS and others
It brings us a lots of challenges to choose a programming language when the infra doesn't support other languages and considering the cost effectiveness of servers
I would say don't use PHP anymore for new projects, go with serverless or Node, or Go
Does it somehow save coding time and money? Or are they better to manage
Yes I think it saves you coding time. But just use what you like, but php is a giant mess that is kept alive by WordPress and freelancers.
Can you also give me some examples of loosing solutions with SPF