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Discussion on: Any advice for a person reaching the 4 year mark?

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Ben Halpern

You don't have to make any specific kind of career progressions to lead, management, etc. It's 100% up to you. If you want a new thing, go for it, otherwise don't.

Some people accept "promotions" that they don't actually want.

Just one thing to keep in the back of your mind as new opportunities present themselves in the future.

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Matthew Collison

I second this setiment. Your journey is your journey, and the pace at which tech evolves is crazy.

Set yourself reasonable goals and that's the ideal progression - don't set a time limit on your goals. Just be self aware to know what you want, aim for it and deploy patience ✌️✌️

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Luke Bayliss

I love hearing about the different journeys people have made to get where they are. Everyone has such a unique story and it makes for a really diverse industry.

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Matthew Collison

We completely agree Luke, the more diversity there is in the stories of people's progression, the less doubt people apply when learning because they can clearly see everyone has their own unique path to follow.

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Lars Richter

Ben is so right. Focus on what you like to do. If you like coding, keep learning exactly that. If you like bring responsible for team members and the team performance, try to work on that.

I recently quit my Job as a backend lead and will start a job as a "normal" developer again. I did it, because I really love coding. And that's what I want to do. As a lead, I spent too much time in customer calls and other meetings.

Do what you love.

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sforce

All the best Lars!

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ItsASine (Kayla)

I like this. I'm not motivated by corporate ladders, so I don't think my manager knows what to do with me. I work at a senior level, so I'll probably get a promotion this year, but I guess I'm not excited enough about it (beyond money) for him :P

As long as I'm getting paid in a stable gig, cool :)

Part of the issue, though, is

  1. 'rockstars' are career driven, and companies like to hire rockstars, so I tend to be surrounded by that sort at work
  2. I hang out here with driven tech folks
  3. I lurk on AskAManager where everyone there is ultra career driven

So it seems so wrong to not care about a 5/10/20-year plan. Everyone thinks I'm trying to pivot to data science or ML but I'm just doing my thing whatever happens.

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sforce

Wow! Kudos for keeping your ground.

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sforce

I love that you emphasized have

It's good to keep this as a reminder as it often gets drowned by the corporate world's must do's.