Being one that went to college and had some coding before I can't agree. College is nothing, teachers are something, if you get a bad professor you won't do much better than other approache. If you take a book and read it, that you can do it without going to college or even better I found more books through job, podcasts, YouTube videos of conference or such than recommended by teachers. You assume that software based college = CS and in the US or some country with good reputation. Well gotta break it to you, some of us weren't so lucky with that. I did learn more about computer networks, project management, and some computer graphics. However, I did want to know more about software development. That changed a lot on the same college I went to but for me it was not so good. So it depends how lucky you are. You might as well go to different bootcamps and get the same knowledge. Mine was focused on delivering people ready to work with Microsoft tech stack which was not my preference so I ended up exploring online, digging more stuff. In all fairness I didn't pay attention it said Information Technologies not CS but I thought ahhh it's the same.
You are correct that having the right teacher makes all of the difference. To your other point Tech moves so quickly that if you are a year out of any school the code you learned has evolved and all of these things are the ones that you need to keep up. It's the fundamental basics of computer science that give you the understanding to pick up a book and understand it that you get from going to college.
Again, can't agree having different experience. College in my case had different influence. I picked up things on my own because it didn't provide me what I was searching for. They were more like bootcamp. They did change plan and program couple of years after I left but they definitely did not provide what you're talking about at that time. So it's not only teachers that played the role in there but also college itself. I saw this with many colleges and you need to dive a bit deeper to understand such issue. Maybe MIT, Stanford, Berkley, and such are better than any job experience but in most cases it's opposite. If you go with "good college" than you're limiting how many people can benefit from it since not many can get there. I've been playing with computers since I was like 9, and always wanted to work with it. I've been to 12 different companies now and worked with all sorts of profiles of people. College was the least of influence on how good someone was. In fact most of those who went to good college were too arrogant to understand new technology as they were too good to use such thing. I'm saying that fundamentals are not thought as good as you think in college, and sometimes they are in fact wrong.
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Being one that went to college and had some coding before I can't agree. College is nothing, teachers are something, if you get a bad professor you won't do much better than other approache. If you take a book and read it, that you can do it without going to college or even better I found more books through job, podcasts, YouTube videos of conference or such than recommended by teachers. You assume that software based college = CS and in the US or some country with good reputation. Well gotta break it to you, some of us weren't so lucky with that. I did learn more about computer networks, project management, and some computer graphics. However, I did want to know more about software development. That changed a lot on the same college I went to but for me it was not so good. So it depends how lucky you are. You might as well go to different bootcamps and get the same knowledge. Mine was focused on delivering people ready to work with Microsoft tech stack which was not my preference so I ended up exploring online, digging more stuff. In all fairness I didn't pay attention it said Information Technologies not CS but I thought ahhh it's the same.
You are correct that having the right teacher makes all of the difference. To your other point Tech moves so quickly that if you are a year out of any school the code you learned has evolved and all of these things are the ones that you need to keep up. It's the fundamental basics of computer science that give you the understanding to pick up a book and understand it that you get from going to college.
Again, can't agree having different experience. College in my case had different influence. I picked up things on my own because it didn't provide me what I was searching for. They were more like bootcamp. They did change plan and program couple of years after I left but they definitely did not provide what you're talking about at that time. So it's not only teachers that played the role in there but also college itself. I saw this with many colleges and you need to dive a bit deeper to understand such issue. Maybe MIT, Stanford, Berkley, and such are better than any job experience but in most cases it's opposite. If you go with "good college" than you're limiting how many people can benefit from it since not many can get there. I've been playing with computers since I was like 9, and always wanted to work with it. I've been to 12 different companies now and worked with all sorts of profiles of people. College was the least of influence on how good someone was. In fact most of those who went to good college were too arrogant to understand new technology as they were too good to use such thing. I'm saying that fundamentals are not thought as good as you think in college, and sometimes they are in fact wrong.