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TrasherDK

"some comments removed" :)

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Jason C. McDonald

Yup, all the unproductive debate about whether master should even be changed, which I explicitly stated at the end of the article has no place in this discussion. ;)

Sometimes you have to take a hard line on intolerance.

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TrasherDK

Censoring opposing opinions is just another form of intolerance.

I have no opinion about what your choose to call your github branches. That's totally up to you,

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Jason C. McDonald • Edited

Welcome to the paradox of intolerance: to support tolerance, one must be intolerant of intolerance. That means, no, I don't have to give voice to people baselessly criticizing the very real experiences of people wholly dissimilar to themselves.

Besides, there are other places to have this conversation about whether master should be renamed...although it's honestly been exhausted across multiple threads and articles. The only dissenters are people with absolutely no stake in the matter save a minor inconvenience in renaming a couple of things. Many of the people who have reason to care have already spoken.

From the DEV Code of Conduct:

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  • Being respectful of differing viewpoints and experiences.

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We pledge to prioritize marginalized people’s safety over privileged people’s comfort.

As the "pro-master" arguments are almost always in violation of those first two cited principles, I am merely exercising the third.

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TrasherDK

As noted before. I don't care what you call your branches. It's none of my business.
What I do care about is censorship. When you choose to make a political statement in a public forum, you can not delete responses you don't like. You opened the gate, now deal with the responses.

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Jason C. McDonald • Edited

Literally not how it works, mate. Free speech doesn't mean hate speech is tolerable, especially not here. That is the literal exact reason "Hide Comment" was given to all authors.

If "I should be able to say whatever to whomever" is your philosophy, you're on the wrong platform.

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TrasherDK

Well. I'm not saying "hate speech is tolerable" or "I should be able to say whatever to whomever".
I'm saying that I'm not happy about censorship anywhere.

In my opinion, a developer community platform, is not the right place to push a political agenda.

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Jason C. McDonald • Edited

What you perceive as a "political agenda" is really an issue of interpersonal compassion and intercultural communication. You don't have the slightest idea what real censorship is. You're merely angry that you (or someone else) isn't being given free and unbridled voice after being warned this was not the place for the topic.

The issue of master matters deeply to some people of color, and therefore, it should matter to us. It's not political, it's personal to them. They've already been publicly criticized and flamed for feeling that way, and that's not okay.

It's your crowd that made this "political". If you feel it's so morally reprehensible to lend your shoulder to a wheel that means nothing to you, but a lot to someone else, then the best thing you can do is recognize that you cannot possibly contribute any value to this conversation, sit down, and let saner heads prevail. You are entirely in the wrong here.

But I am not bothering any further with this. I've only responded now in hopes that you can learn something. However, I have hidden your comment thread as well, as per my article's warning and consistent with this website's Code of Conduct. This is not the place. In case you have any further objections, just understand: I am exercising MY right to free speech when I put the brakes on unproductive debates in MY article comments. If you want to complain, find your own place for it. This spot doesn't belong to you.

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