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Discussion on: What Makes an Environment Inclusive?

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TMcSquared

While I do not like people being treated differently based on their color, race, gender, etc; that does not imply that I have to treat all skill levels equally. Some people are better than others at different things, it's just life. I don't particularly enjoy hearing about skillful people not getting hired simply because of a company policy of: "We have to treat everyone equally" The same goes for promotions as well, skill is learned, whereas gender, race, etc. is not learned.

As for creating an "inclusive" environment, I would make sure that everyone knows that they are as much a part of the company/whatever as anyone else, kind of like a well-structured family. Me personally I would not 'make sure' ladies are getting promoted just as much as the men. I do have respect for ladies, don't get me wrong on that ;) however, I would promote based on skill and experience alone and not have gender be in the equation at all.

Thanks for asking a great question and allowing us to answer it!

Tre'

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Kim Arnett  • Edited

I would promote based on skill and experience alone and not have gender be in the equation at all.

How it should be -- however fact is that men are being promoted over the ladies because they are more outspoken/ have more opportunities given to them for various reasons etc. If IT WAS based on skill I bet you'd see about 50% for each being promoted :)

Otherwise you can analyze based on skill and ability to get the job done while still having respect for everyone. As it should!

Thanks for your input!

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TMcSquared

Your welcome!
I do agree with you on this when it comes to mental and some physical things; however, there is a difference for some tasks, like heavy lifting, physical battle, etc. where men have a slight advantage over women because of their biological makeup.

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Kim Arnett 

Shouldn’t be having physical battles in the workplace 🤔

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TMcSquared

lol, I was mostly speaking in a broader sense than just in the workplace.

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Ghost • Edited

Please don't take this as a push back, but as additional information we all need to know. A FACT that keeps getting overlooked is that only 24% of STEM jobs in the US are held by women. This in itself creates a disproportionate number of men being promoted more than women so it's just not an aggressive thing that gets men promoted, it's also the numbers. Yet when this is brought up many are chastised for making this point.

Through out my 35 years in this industry there have been many changes. One of the best improvements is more women in tech. This gives teams a diverse set of skills and thoughts about solving problems that were not around in the early days. We need more!

If we want to fix this problem we need more young women to get involved in STEM degrees and jobs.

esa.doc.gov/reports/women-stem-201...

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Kim Arnett 

You’re right. Sometimes I forget being on a team with multiple ladies kicking butt. 😊 but change is coming. 🙌🏼