How have frameworks managed to kill businesses? was it due to having to refactor the code sitting under them to a new version?
Let me tell you my story.
I work for an online school and 3 attempts were made to rewrite the entire learning management system into symfony, codeigniter, and then laravel. The LMS was written in old school PHP 3 code that had just barely made it's way into 5.2 compatibility. The structure of the site was a loose set of scripts with a few global libraries and no object oriented stuff, relied on input globals, etc.
The codeigniter attempt had 2 super huge controllers but implemented at least 75% of the functionality before a wall was hit with that approach.
The laravel attempt only got 15% of the way there before the programmer gave up.
I got my job maintaining this legacy application and throughout the course of 1 year, refactored it to be compatible with 7.2 and beyond. Only until recently has it seen any object oriented code, which was just an experiment.
The other programmers sold the company on a rewrite by touting the benefits of these frameworks. Last time, the owner was told that we Laravel was great because it could do caching, easy APIs, database abstraction, and had an admin panel addon that would make redoing the backend easy.
None of this stuff materialized and the refactored LMS is running on a 1GB mem amazon instance without caching because it's written more like a C program and has the performance to match.
The laravel backend plugin was horribly buggy and crashy; but that might have been because we had a crap programmer. 100% of the laravel code was written off as a loss, because none of it could be used in the old system - it was too dependent on laravel.
I do wonder if the intense layering of abstractions and the scattering of tiny objects that have maybe 1 or two methods, adding up to 1000's of objects, is even comprehendable to the programmers trying to follow that ideologies.
I tried asking a SOLID devotee writing some popular upcoming forum software how he managed to trace execution in his program and he could not provide me with an answer..
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Interesting stuff.
How have frameworks managed to kill businesses? was it due to having to refactor the code sitting under them to a new version?
Let me tell you my story.
I work for an online school and 3 attempts were made to rewrite the entire learning management system into symfony, codeigniter, and then laravel. The LMS was written in old school PHP 3 code that had just barely made it's way into 5.2 compatibility. The structure of the site was a loose set of scripts with a few global libraries and no object oriented stuff, relied on input globals, etc.
The codeigniter attempt had 2 super huge controllers but implemented at least 75% of the functionality before a wall was hit with that approach.
The laravel attempt only got 15% of the way there before the programmer gave up.
I got my job maintaining this legacy application and throughout the course of 1 year, refactored it to be compatible with 7.2 and beyond. Only until recently has it seen any object oriented code, which was just an experiment.
The other programmers sold the company on a rewrite by touting the benefits of these frameworks. Last time, the owner was told that we Laravel was great because it could do caching, easy APIs, database abstraction, and had an admin panel addon that would make redoing the backend easy.
None of this stuff materialized and the refactored LMS is running on a 1GB mem amazon instance without caching because it's written more like a C program and has the performance to match.
The laravel backend plugin was horribly buggy and crashy; but that might have been because we had a crap programmer. 100% of the laravel code was written off as a loss, because none of it could be used in the old system - it was too dependent on laravel.
I do wonder if the intense layering of abstractions and the scattering of tiny objects that have maybe 1 or two methods, adding up to 1000's of objects, is even comprehendable to the programmers trying to follow that ideologies.
I tried asking a SOLID devotee writing some popular upcoming forum software how he managed to trace execution in his program and he could not provide me with an answer..