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That said, I've been reviewing code recently for various CI developers. If I show them how their Python is not clean and there is a better way they're "huh yeah I get it, I'll try to remember that for next tiem". I do the same thing with their shell and they're "yeah, my shell skills are bad haha, anyway, moving on." Whether I press the point or not is moot here -- that initial lack of interest is the core problem... and I do think that "perception" of shell languages is in part a problem... hence for these kinds of people, all-out moving towards other languages, as you recognise, is probably more conducive to clean code...
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That said, I've been reviewing code recently for various CI developers. If I show them how their Python is not clean and there is a better way they're "huh yeah I get it, I'll try to remember that for next tiem". I do the same thing with their shell and they're "yeah, my shell skills are bad haha, anyway, moving on." Whether I press the point or not is moot here -- that initial lack of interest is the core problem... and I do think that "perception" of shell languages is in part a problem... hence for these kinds of people, all-out moving towards other languages, as you recognise, is probably more conducive to clean code...