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Discussion on: Do I Need A Computer Science Degree To Get A Job In Tech?

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Matthew Collison

Hi Tony,

I really appreciate this because you're absolutely right to feel skeptical when any company posts a post that appears to directly benefit their own pockets. Let me make a couple of things clear though.

First of all, I'm Matt, I'm the founder of this bootcamp and I am the sole source and opinion of all of these claims. I have been coding / designing for 15 years, and I alone (let alone some of the other people on our team who have been hiring managers for many years) have interviewed 100s of people across 2 different web agencies, and in the embedded team I'm currently working for.

Me and the others here are absolutely sick of seeing people accrue tons of student debt and come out of university with little to show for it, because they think (rightfully so) that spending that kind of money would give them the correct guidance that makes them hireable out of the gate. But the reality is far from the case - as I have witnessed first-hand.

This isn't to say you won't be hire-able, because as the article says, you need to just embody certain principles, but I have personally interviewed dozens upon dozens of CS graduates and not hired a single one - nothing to do with their degree, more to do with the failings of the university curriculum and setting them up for the real world, not an academic view of what computer science is.

This isn't to say that university and CS isn't for everybody - there are edge cases and such, but it doesn't take statistics to understand that 6 focused months following Udemy courses and building a portfolio, or a 1 year internship can teach you more efficiently and effectively than a 4 year university course. My hires and many other people commenting here are direct proof of this.

If you disagree or don't believe me, I completely understand it, but over the next few years, the truth will play out for what it is. If I'm proven wrong, I will hold my hands up, but nothing points to that currently so I want to help people see it for what it is.

Also, this article is in no way an advertisement for our bootcamp. It would be terrible timing as we are no-where near releasing any paid content, and views / engagement very quickly fall off after the first couple of days. Our intent is only to help. I want to make it very clear that the opinions here, and if you read into it properly, are no way biased towards bootcamps - I just love helping people. I started this because I was frustrated with people spending unnecessary money at university, if you spent money on our bootcamp before trying for months to learn for free with the resources available, we would be just as bad.

That's exactly why our next article lays out the A-Z blueprint for becoming a paid web developer for absolutely free. I fully understand 99.99% of people can't afford and won't pay for our bootcamp down the line, but I am happy to give those every resource possible to enable them to learn the correct way and feel confident they could one day get hired.

I hope you understand the point here - if you look at our instagram, blog posts, etc VS all the other bootcamp companies, you'll notice we're actually just trying to help rather than show off our sessions etc. I'd rather you go away with some helpful information that feel excited about a glamorized bootcamp, because for us, we don't like the idea of that. It's just as bad as thinking your diploma is the be all and end all to get you that job.

Let me know your thoughts on this. I know it's a packed answer but I really feel it needs a proper explanation.