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Scott Howell III

I can't recommend The Phoenix Project enough. I read that book right when it came out and really didn't understand what it was trying to change. Fast forward 3 years later and I am on a DevOps team trying to figure out how to get the company to change the way they think. I went back to The Phoenix Project and then read their newer book The DevOps Handbook. Thats when my mindset changed about what DevOps is.

I would love for the executives of the company I work for to read The Phoenix Project but alas I will stick with trying to summarized the learnings from the book to them.

My suggestion would be to get some books and start asking people to read the first chapter. Because if it doesn't make you laugh and then want to cry because thats how it currently works in your business, they wont want to read the rest and they wont want to change.