I surely am talking about the most used/wanted/required/desired frameworks that employers would want you to know.
So in this context, when it comes to JavaScript, it is usually Node, Angular, React and Vue.
But when it comes to PHP, you've got Laravel, Symfony, Zend, Yii, CakePHP, Magento, CodeIgniter, Slim, Silex, FuelPHP and Phalcon. Not to mention Drupal/Joomla/Wordpress which being CMS they have somehow became a skill/framework for PHP developers to know and work with.
Surely you can go on and create a JS framework of yours and put it out there, but what I was talking about is what is demanded in the market. When it comes to JS, knowing the above mentioned FOUR frameworks will get you at least 90% of JS jobs. But sadly, when it comes to PHP, knowing about FOUR PH frameworks, would probably land you about 40~50% of all PHP jobs (depending on the frameworks).
node is not a framework ... node is an runtime environment. And there are so many more frameworks you just basically used the most popular ones frontend ones that came to mind.
I just hear someone who mainly works with PHP telling me how JS is.
I mentioned Node just I mentioned WordPress, as "technologies" (framework or library or CMS or whatever) related to the corresponding language, and that "technology" is what is wanted so you get a job nowadays.
I am not telling you how JS is, God forbid, you know best, I am telling you what I am seeing in demand by the companies (at least in my region).
The point was, as the author mentioned, to focus on the language, and not on the technologies related to the language.
I see that you made 2 comments since you joined dev.to and they are both in this thread, and both of your comments are a bit, JUST a bit, arrogant and filled with attitude. Allow me to advise you to drop some of that attitude, if you ever want to be respected by the people you interact with.
Well you can see it that way. I don't think I'm better ... I just think you said things that are wrong. there's a difference.
I don't argue with the conclusion of the author
You are defending your inital argument by deflection and now suggesting that I'm arrogant, in an passive aggressive way, just because I point out that your statement is wrong.
I can see why it appears arrogant,I am not even bothered it's only natural to have this emotional response.
So I appologize if I hurt your feelings and to me this conversation is over :).
I really regret getting into an argument with you "j". I should have said "let's agree to disagree" from the begin with and spared myself the trouble :D
Anyways, I hope you start conversing with other developers with a bit of more respect, and make your arguments with facts and not sarcasm.
I don't think anything is waste of time. Maybe here we had some misunderstanding/miscommunication.
I just hoped that you explained your point of view with more reasoning than smilies, because I see from your GitHub that you are an active developer and I respect your work and would like to contribute to it.
I would really like to discuss some of your GitHub projects and get to know your point of view about PHP/JS as a fellow developer.
look, I was not sarcastic. So everything I said was what I meant to say. I learned to be precise that's all, JS has more frameworks than PHP, node.js is definitly no framework. Those are facts not an opinion.
That's it.
If you want to contribute, you are more than welcome to. Pick a project / lib, fork it, make a PR I am more than happy to get some feedback another perspective on my code.
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PHP frameworks:
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_o...
I surely am talking about the most used/wanted/required/desired frameworks that employers would want you to know.
So in this context, when it comes to JavaScript, it is usually Node, Angular, React and Vue.
But when it comes to PHP, you've got Laravel, Symfony, Zend, Yii, CakePHP, Magento, CodeIgniter, Slim, Silex, FuelPHP and Phalcon. Not to mention Drupal/Joomla/Wordpress which being CMS they have somehow became a skill/framework for PHP developers to know and work with.
Surely you can go on and create a JS framework of yours and put it out there, but what I was talking about is what is demanded in the market. When it comes to JS, knowing the above mentioned FOUR frameworks will get you at least 90% of JS jobs. But sadly, when it comes to PHP, knowing about FOUR PH frameworks, would probably land you about 40~50% of all PHP jobs (depending on the frameworks).
node is not a framework ... node is an runtime environment. And there are so many more frameworks you just basically used the most popular ones frontend ones that came to mind.
I just hear someone who mainly works with PHP telling me how JS is.
I mentioned Node just I mentioned WordPress, as "technologies" (framework or library or CMS or whatever) related to the corresponding language, and that "technology" is what is wanted so you get a job nowadays.
I am not telling you how JS is, God forbid, you know best, I am telling you what I am seeing in demand by the companies (at least in my region).
The point was, as the author mentioned, to focus on the language, and not on the technologies related to the language.
I see that you made 2 comments since you joined dev.to and they are both in this thread, and both of your comments are a bit, JUST a bit, arrogant and filled with attitude. Allow me to advise you to drop some of that attitude, if you ever want to be respected by the people you interact with.
;)
Well you can see it that way. I don't think I'm better ... I just think you said things that are wrong. there's a difference.
I don't argue with the conclusion of the author
You are defending your inital argument by deflection and now suggesting that I'm arrogant, in an passive aggressive way, just because I point out that your statement is wrong.
I can see why it appears arrogant,I am not even bothered it's only natural to have this emotional response.
So I appologize if I hurt your feelings and to me this conversation is over :).
I really regret getting into an argument with you "j". I should have said "let's agree to disagree" from the begin with and spared myself the trouble :D
Anyways, I hope you start conversing with other developers with a bit of more respect, and make your arguments with facts and not sarcasm.
I am not sarcastic at all, but yes probabbly you should've :). It was a waste of time anyway :).
I don't think anything is waste of time. Maybe here we had some misunderstanding/miscommunication.
I just hoped that you explained your point of view with more reasoning than smilies, because I see from your GitHub that you are an active developer and I respect your work and would like to contribute to it.
I would really like to discuss some of your GitHub projects and get to know your point of view about PHP/JS as a fellow developer.
look, I was not sarcastic. So everything I said was what I meant to say. I learned to be precise that's all, JS has more frameworks than PHP, node.js is definitly no framework. Those are facts not an opinion.
That's it.
If you want to contribute, you are more than welcome to. Pick a project / lib, fork it, make a PR I am more than happy to get some feedback another perspective on my code.