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Jeremy Grifski • Edited

I love that you mention the readability comment at the end! I think I'd have a hard time justifying this operator in almost any context. I'd love to see some other examples. For instance, I just dug up this interesting list comprehension example (source):

employees = [result for id in employee_ids if (result := fetch_employee(id))]

Of course, this is sort of an advanced example which includes a lot of special properties of Python. That said, I like how it looks.

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Maximilian Burszley • Edited

It is of great convenience taken from the C languages. I sometimes utilize a similar construct in PowerShell:

if ($var = Get-Service) {
    # do a thing with services
}

Not sure I'd call a list comprehension "advanced"

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Jeremy Grifski

I'm not sure your example really convinces me that this is a good practice (or a good additional feature for that matter). In fact, it's basically the same example given in the article. What's the advantage of placing the assignment in the condition?

To address your snark, there's a mix of features here which is why I called it advanced:

  • List Comprehension
  • Walrus Operator
  • Type Flexibility (result could be some falsey value)

These aren't exactly loops and conditionals we're talking about. The average person isn't going to be able to understand this line just by looking at it.

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Jason C. McDonald • Edited

List comprehensions are pretty normal for some pure-functional languages, like Haskell, but they're rare (and thus feel "advanced") for coders more familiar with, say, C++ or Java.

(The snark definitely wasn't called for.)

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Jeremy Grifski

Agreed! But, there's more to my example than just a list comprehension.

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Jason C. McDonald • Edited

Oh, definitely. I think that one would actually make a few of my Python colleagues cringe, with the walrus operator being in it like that...but then, the walrus is controversial to begin with!

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Jeremy Grifski • Edited

For sure! I was wondering why they would include the feature because I feel like it goes against Python's design a little bit. For one, it's an expression and a statement which makes it a little ambiguous. Of course, I'm glad that they used a different operator for it.

That said, I just found a really nice example (source):

while chunk := file.read(8192):
  process(chunk)

Now, that's clean!