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Patrick Nelson • Edited on

My thread of comments was censored too. This felt like a battle of attrition and I lost.

Coincidentally it took exactly the same angle as yours; except I persisted until I was personally accused of "sweeping it under the rug." There was a bit too much drama and emotional retort (even after spending several hours in my replies) that I simply deleted my comments after they got censored (and having received a couple likes).

The crazy thing was that I agreed on the bigger picture; my fault I guess was nitpicking at a particular detail which didn't align with the author's perspective.

I see myself as such a hardcore geek; like, I live (like all of you) "in the weeds." I care so much about the subject matter and it really matters to me that everyone else also be able to enjoy their passion too, freely. I don't care what your race, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation or religion is.

EDIT: I really tried to move on. Even though I thought I had vented here, encouraging others not to call her out, I figured we had moved past this issue and came to agree that we are a community with a diversity of opinions.

However, the author decided to track me down here and use my own "final straw" against me. After my thread was hidden, she then revealed purposefully found me here and then revealed that, actually, she hid my comments because she felt attacked by me. This was not my intent; I sincerely thought I largely agreed with her except for a single detail (the core thesis of her article).

However, I'm now in a position where I feel forced to publicly defend my statements because of this escalation. Please see my latest comment on the current article for more context on the original conversation between her and I: dev.to/patricknelson/comment/1ecpj

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Amelia Vieira Rosado 🐣✨ Author

I'm saddened to hear this. I really am. So sorry you were branded the villain. You don't strike me as a disrespectful person at all.

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Patrick Nelson

Thank you. It was an interesting but nuanced discussion with some complexity to it. At the end of it, I just felt dismissed (as it appears the author did), even though I thought I largely agreed with them.

Even on dev.to, anything politically sensitive still runs the risk of descending into a potentially toxic discussion; ironically, even if the discussion itself is about toxic discussions.

Considering the time and effort it takes, to honestly consider the opinions of others (particularly those you disagree with) and to write a well thought out opinion of your own, it's often much easier to simply not participate. Particularly if the subject matter is at all potentially contentious in any way.

One lesson you could learn from this to simply stay anonymous or just don't get involved. However, I feel that degrades the quality of the content and the level of consideration, because I genuinely want to represent myself well when my name is publicly attached to to what I'm saying.

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Amelia Vieira Rosado 🐣✨ Author

At the end of it, I just felt dismissed (as it appears the author did), even though I thought I largely agreed with them.

This is what upsets me the most! You basically agree with them but they still censor you. I just don't get it! How much lower do we have to fall as humankind?

I really don't like how things unfolded at all. Things were a hot mess over the weekend. And to think we are supposed to continue our lives like nothing happened. Oh boy, the audacity...

This is one of the reasons why people don't engage with any kind of content these days. They don't feel heard. They feel dismissed. They are treated like the villain. That's really uncool I must say.

I really don't know how to feel about this whole thing, but I'd be lying if I said it didn't bother me. Chances are not much will change, because entitled folks will be entitled folks and well, the minorities are sacrificed along with their opinions.

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Cher • Edited on

So sorry you were branded the villain.

The sad thing, to me, is that despite not using my name, you are all doing the very thing you postured against me doing. I never "branded" anyone a "villain".

I am exhausted after many days of having to respond to hundreds of comments, often repeating the same exact points over and over to each person making the exact same points.

@patricknelson :
Our exchange in particular left me mentally extinguished and I felt that your final reply to me threw out what I spent a significant amount of time and thoughtfulness writing to focus on one single word, dismissing all of that time and energy. I don't actually feel like our interaction was a healthy one at all, and somehow I had missed that, and on top of that, it made no points from you, nor from me, that weren't readily readable and available in any of the other dozens of comment threads challenging my post.

Your comments read to me as increasing in aggression, with the last one being the final straw to me.

I'll leave with this. You have absolutely zero right to take up any amount of space in my head, nor on my posts. You aren't entitled to a dialogue with me, nor am I to entitled to one with you. While I appreciated you taking the time you did to share your differing opinion, I, again, felt like your tone got increasingly more aggressive, and so I chose to simply disengage and let the other threads that remained more constructive into arguing these two opposing viewpoints stand on their own.

While I apologize that this made you feel victimized, I want you to consider that I hid your content because I felt attacked by you.

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the author decided to track me down here
she then revealed purposefully found me here

Neither of these things are true.

I was linked this thread of people talking about me, because it was obvious they were talking about me. I read the thread. I replied where I felt I wanted/needed to defend myself.

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Shaquil Maria

I'll leave with this. You have absolutely zero right to take up any amount of space in my head, nor on my posts.

You really are getting worked up for nothing. Nobody mentioned your name or your post, why not just move on with your life? This post is about the habit of authors hiding comments and about how it invalidates the opinions of the commenters. This post is not about YOU. So please stop justifying yourself and move on.

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Cher

I'm replying to specific comments about me, in this thread. Thank you for your input.

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Patrick Nelson • Edited on

Redacted.

EDIT: Full deleted thread here.

EDIT 2: Cleaning things up here since it has gotten messy. Basically I'm asking that she not reply to me again and that I disagree strongly with her message above. I'll leave it at that.

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Patrick Nelson

@cher I gave it more thought, reread what I said, what you said and etc. Please accept my apologies on this and the original thread. I was definitely too pedantic in my last comment to you and cut it unceremoniously short, I honestly wasn't in the best state of mind at the time; however that's no excuse. When I saw the notifications, I selfishly felt very overloaded (nothing like what you're experiencing, I'm sure). I took it much to personally as well and that's my fault. I hope you can understand and I don't expect anything in return per se. I've already made sure to edit out or remove most of my statements if it helps.

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Cher

I appreciate this a lot. I can understand feeling overloaded (I was there, too, when I started hiding comments to control the flow of notifications and repeating myself, mostly).

Hopefully we can all be a little more empathetic here and remember we're all just humans with totally different experiences trying to come together for a better understanding to work towards a more equitable and healthy environment.