re: Even the Big Ones Mess Up VIEW POST


Thank God, doctors and pilots do not share this point of view. If I compare myself to someone, or compete with, I would choose the person like Einstein, not the silly Instagram junior.

Also, in 2018 best developers keep as far from G5 as possible.


Sure he did.

To be deadly precise: I tend to compare myself to ideal Einstein, living in the parallel reality, making exactly zero mistakes and having all his successes multiplied by order of magnitude.


Modern medicine is built upon trial and error. LOTS of mistakes made. People died because of those mistakes.

Think about what a doctor does and what a software developer does. It is very much a debugging exercise. "What hurts? When did it start? What factors surrounded this happening? Does it hurt when you do this? Or only this?"

They're debugging you. And when pressed, they'll admit: they're doing what they can with the info they have and there is no 100% solution most likely. They are taking guesses; educated guesses of course. But guesses.


They rarely if never publish articles saying “Everybody makes mistakes, don’t worry, that’s fine.”

Doctors were harder on themselves than patients were when it came to judging their ability to minimize the pain, discomfort, or disability caused by a condition. Only 37 percent of physicians thought they were "very" effective, though 60 percent more thought they were "somewhat" effective. But 79 percent of patients said their doctor helped to minimize their pain or discomfort. -- Consumer Reports

You're suffering from contempt borne of familiarity. You know everything that's wrong in the software world, and nothing about how messed up the medical world is. How 30% of new doctors suffer from depression. And, speaking from personal experience, how freaking elitist an MD can be. Nor have you conversed with people who have chronic illnesses and have taken tons of different drugs with various side-effects and the doctors just move on to the next; I'm not sure if they publicly exist, or are kept behind closed doors, but "everybody makes mistakes" is obviously the norm in that world.

"The only doctor who never loses a patient is one who doesn't try to heal." Which I don't want to be overly-critical of the medical field; I wouldn't even be remotely familiar enough with all the stuff going on to be able to give a truly informed critique beyond the surface level.

Yes, I believe you are right. I have most likely found not the best argument and any comparison of apples vs oranges is silly.
I am just a bit tired of claims like “making errors is fine.”
It surely happens, all of us have fuckups in the past (and in the future,) it is what life is, and so on.
But this is not fine and should not be treated as such.
Mistakes give us experience for granted, they make us stronger etc.
But they are not fine.
That is basically what I wanted to say.


No one is saying that mistakes are meaningless or can be swept away without concern. Mistakes are action items and opportunities to grow as professional and as individuals.

Consider this excerpt from @dstarner 's original post:

No matter how much we prepare, we will make mistakes, that's just a part of life. What matters is how we face those mistakes and issues, and the tenacity we bring to making software better.

Having lofty expectations for yourself is fine, but for a lot of people, failing to reach those lofty personal expectations leads to severe stress and anxiety. Learning to cope with your mistakes and grow is an important personal development skill. Many people can be paralyzed for fear of making a mistake, and this post (as I understood it) seeks to alleviate some of that paralysis.


I agree with this completely. I'm pretty sure you just summed up my thoughts better than my post did 😂

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