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Discussion on: Is it time we quit WhatsApp?

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Mark Roeling

I do use Telegram as well, however Telegram doesn't support e2e encryption for normal messaging. So for the few people that I have on Telegram I've suggested to use Signal instead.

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Álvaro Croce

Do you know Telegram uses e2e with no backup in their secret chats?

I'm not against Signal, but I always found strange that people used that same not well informed excuse to use WhatsApp.

Signal is more niche I think, I understand that people need that over another app, but in my opinion the e2e excuse misleads people into think that Telegram is insecure.

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Andre

But as far as I understand, thats not the case in group chats. Or I don't see a secret group chat activation in the menu.

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Álvaro Croce • Edited

No, I didn't found that either. I guess for them you can only keep a secret between two people :D

Does Signal has an encrypted group chat? They store the chat history somewhere ? I need to search and read about that because I don't know, and that might be a key difference.

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Andre

In their knowledge base article[1], they write:

Signal service has no record of your group memberships, group titles, group avatars, or group attributes.

They also have a blog post[2] where they explain everything in detail about how group chats work. In [2], if you scroll down, they write:

Communication is private

Communication is private on Android, iOS and Desktop. And this includes the group chat feature. But as far as I understand, the communication is stored but is encrypted. [3] According to Signal:

Signal messages and calls cannot be accessed by us or other third parties because they are always end-to-end encrypted, private, and secure.

[1] support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articl...
[2] signal.org/blog/signal-private-gro...
[3] support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articl...

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Rishabh Singh ⚡

Telegram has it's own flaws😭 but hopefully since a lot of people are moving on it... Telegram will add e2e soon so that people can use Telegram without any worries...

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Rishabh Singh ⚡

Preety clever 🔥 I also just wish if Telegram had e2e more easily accessible... Meanwhile using Signal sounds like a great option 🚀

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