I used IRC, Campfire (and later HipChat) long before Slack was a gleam in the eye. I think Basecamp made a principled decision to move away from RT chat, and frankly - I don't love RT because I personally lack self-control to not jump in. It ends up being incredibly distracting, although I will say I like it for StimulusReflex as an open source project far more than I like it in a professional setting. It's really hard to find organizational data in a mountain of chat.
That all said, the reason I've been positive on Discord for our project is that forum posts are slow and kind of lonely - they don't encourage people to jump in and problem solve in real-time as a community. If you show up at the SR Discord with a problem, you get tackled by a group of experienced developers that treat your arrival as good news and actually set down their tools to help a newcomer get over the first hump. It's allowed us to build an incredible community in a relatively short period of time. People sometimes get emotional (in the good way). That is just not a thing on a message board.
I agree with you about Basecamp not being in the business of promoting Stimulus, because it's not really something that can be debated. To me, the important question is what, if anything, we as a community of users are willing to do to change the story going forward. Open source projects can grow bigger than the creator envisions, but it's not going to be done for us.
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I used IRC, Campfire (and later HipChat) long before Slack was a gleam in the eye. I think Basecamp made a principled decision to move away from RT chat, and frankly - I don't love RT because I personally lack self-control to not jump in. It ends up being incredibly distracting, although I will say I like it for StimulusReflex as an open source project far more than I like it in a professional setting. It's really hard to find organizational data in a mountain of chat.
That all said, the reason I've been positive on Discord for our project is that forum posts are slow and kind of lonely - they don't encourage people to jump in and problem solve in real-time as a community. If you show up at the SR Discord with a problem, you get tackled by a group of experienced developers that treat your arrival as good news and actually set down their tools to help a newcomer get over the first hump. It's allowed us to build an incredible community in a relatively short period of time. People sometimes get emotional (in the good way). That is just not a thing on a message board.
I agree with you about Basecamp not being in the business of promoting Stimulus, because it's not really something that can be debated. To me, the important question is what, if anything, we as a community of users are willing to do to change the story going forward. Open source projects can grow bigger than the creator envisions, but it's not going to be done for us.