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Discussion on: No, I don't want to become an Angular GDE

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Lars Gyrup Brink Nielsen Author • Edited on

all of them are free to express themselves on the Angular Slack channel or elsewhere.

That's what you're saying. I have accounts of the opposite. More than the examples mentioned in these stories. These are just examples of bigger issues, not one-off issues.

Some people can have legal reason for not speaking about issues like these. Some people may not want to have their issue investigated at this point. Maybe they're just happy to move on after a terrible experience and I don't blame them.

Unfortunately, this changes nothing for the next person joining the Angular team or the Angular GDE program. This is why I'm speaking up on their behalf. To stop this from happening to anyone else.

The first step towards change is realizing and admitting that there's a problem. I see that you're not there yet. I'm trying to convince as many as possible that there are issues both in the Angular team and in the Angular GDE program, in the hope that it can be dealt with.

If you refuse to accept this, I don't know how to make it more clear, but hopefully I can convince someone else who can do something about this by helping to drive the change needed.

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Alain Chautard

I can only accept what I can see and relate to. I have read stuff about the Angular team from former Googlers that I understand and accept because I trust these people. Their posts were truly genuine as they exposed themselves personally.

On the other hand, an outsider to an organization I belong to (the Angular GDEs) telling me that I should see something and that I don't understand, well... I'm questioning their agenda for sure.

I would need more info or proof to change my mind, and I don't see any of that in your post. My email is open if you want to share more.

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Lars Gyrup Brink Nielsen Author • Edited on

I can understand your skepticism.

While I appreciate the offer, I will instead refer Angular GDEs facing issues like these to Wassim Chegham who has also offered his help.

Wassim has been a GDE for 5 years. I personally know and trust him. He's my best suggestion if you're looking for a safe space to discuss matters like these. Wassim is also an excellent mediator.

Read Wassim's tweet with this offer.

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Alain Chautard

You do realize that Wassim seems to be as dumbfounded as I am about your post, right?

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Lars Gyrup Brink Nielsen Author

I would prefer it for himself to express his opinion to me and he did. His tweet followed a conversation between us.

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Alain Chautard

I talked to him and the result still doesn't explain your claims about the GDE community, far from it.

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Mustapha Aouas

« I can only accept what i see and relate to » you are such an open-minded person, aren’t you

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Alain Chautard

I talked to several other GDEs and none of them understand this article. The GDE community has talked about it openly. If something is completely made up or blown out of proportion, being open-minded means just recognizing that instead of accepting what is presented as facts when that's not the case.