re: When PHP Framework Sucks Series: How not to shape your app in the shape of the framework VIEW POST


That is so right at so many levels: When I was a youngy PHP developper, I discovered Laravel and everything lightened up in my head. I was so happy to be so productive (at the time, Laravel just went 5.0). And then, they released 5.5, and removed support for PHP 5.6 (which is a great thing I guess), but then changed their folder structure at Laravel 5.3, and so on... So many breaking changes. Then I watched this talk when Rasmus talks about framework fatigue and say that nowadays, framework are so inclusive, you get to build an API, but you also have Queue Jobs, Mailers, View engine, ...

I think like you guys, I come up to a point when I need to step back and choose my tools and not my framework (maybe PhalconPHP is the answer, maybe Symfony Flex, or something more brutal like composing our own framework).

And then you talked about DDD, and I wanted to know if you have good resources to start with (maybe on



You should check out the fat free framework. Chances are that you'll like the minimalist approach.


you get to build an API, but you also have Queue Jobs, Mailers, View engine, ...

I don't see your point. You get all those things with PHP. Did you ever program with PHP? I suggest giving it a try. It's one of the best things around for web development.

PHP is almost certainly among to top 3 for server side web development. Don't let figures fool you, PHP is a framework for webdevelopment where as many statistics overstate other languages by displaying their frequency of use in other domains. PHP is a DSL.

PHP and derivatives are used by the biggest web services in the world such as Google, Facebook, Wikipedia and Yahoo.

PHP is an awesome framework. You can pretty much do anything with it, you don't need any other framework.

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