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Yes, it's true that a full CSS framework typically has utility classes for colors and components and such. In this case though, I was specifically talking about a framework that provides CSS Grid encapsulation, something that allows adding CSS classes to your HTML elements to handle defining and adding items to a grid rather than doing it in CSS yourself.
And yeah, I agree that Grid makes layout pretty easy out of the box, and I myself am not interested in using a framework. But I've heard more than a few people express frustration with the new syntax and the stack of new properties that need to be learned for Grid, and I've heard rumors that some exist. But I have yet to encounter any 🤔
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Man, those three looked promising, but it turns out none of them are actually using display: grid ☹ All are using interesting combos of display: block, display: inline-block, display: table, and various float hacks to set up their grids
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I did a little more digging on Github, and I found a few people experimenting with it and doing some interesting stuff, but nothing really public-beta-ready:
Nothing super robust, but some interesting experiments happening.
As I read through these though, all of them seem to be kind of superfluous, and as I read the code I keep thinking that I would just prefer to write the CSS directly, and specifying my grid with class names on my HTML tags just doesn't add that much value. Idk, it will be interesting to see what emerges in the next couple years.
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it seems like all three of these are using essentially the same class structure as most float-based grids - what's the point?
I mean, how something is implemented isn't all that interesting - not when it requires the same amount of CSS overall, but just has worse cross-browser support. 🤷♂️
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Yes, it's true that a full CSS framework typically has utility classes for colors and components and such. In this case though, I was specifically talking about a framework that provides CSS Grid encapsulation, something that allows adding CSS classes to your HTML elements to handle defining and adding items to a grid rather than doing it in CSS yourself.
And yeah, I agree that Grid makes layout pretty easy out of the box, and I myself am not interested in using a framework. But I've heard more than a few people express frustration with the new syntax and the stack of new properties that need to be learned for Grid, and I've heard rumors that some exist. But I have yet to encounter any 🤔
Went for a little stroll on GitHub
Found a few:
Man, those three looked promising, but it turns out none of them are actually using
display: grid☹ All are using interesting combos ofdisplay: block,display: inline-block,display: table, and variousfloathacks to set up their gridsI did a little more digging on Github, and I found a few people experimenting with it and doing some interesting stuff, but nothing really public-beta-ready:
Nothing super robust, but some interesting experiments happening.
As I read through these though, all of them seem to be kind of superfluous, and as I read the code I keep thinking that I would just prefer to write the CSS directly, and specifying my grid with class names on my HTML tags just doesn't add that much value. Idk, it will be interesting to see what emerges in the next couple years.
I was fooled!! Didn’t have time to check before sleep—sorry!
@kenbellows it seems like all three of these are using essentially the same class structure as most float-based grids - what's the point?
I mean, how something is implemented isn't all that interesting - not when it requires the same amount of CSS overall, but just has worse cross-browser support. 🤷♂️