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re: What are the worst programming languages that nobody should learn? VIEW POST

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re: Obligatory brainfuck
 

Nobody should ever learn brainfuck?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck

I think that is wrong and here is my counter-argument.

Brainfuck is a legend among developers. Its name is brillant. Lots of developers have secretly dreamed of being good at Brainfuck. What if you could actually master just enough of Brainfuck to impress your friends? I think that would be a lifetime asset to connect with fellow developers. So much opportunity to make them laugh if you know a bit of brainfuck. Really worth learning if that motivates you.

 

I agree that it is a good idea to learn - you have to understand the very basic principles of computing!

But it still is not the most pleasant to code in 😡

 

I agree that obscure/obfuscated languages can be as helpful as learning advanced mathematics. You will get a more essential understanding of what a programming language is or can be.

 

I prefer to call it B****fuck in order not to offend those with delicate sensibilities.

they will probably being too busy looking for other stuff to be offended, for example, those people would really enjoy being offended by Spanish language, every noun has gender!

 

You also would have to make some hard decisions about putting it on your CV, or mentioning it in an interview.

if a company reject you because you have brainfuck in your CV, they don't deserve your awesomeness, it may even be a great filter, if you don't appreciate that someone took his or better yet her time learning brainfuck, don't even call me. :D

I think you have overlooked a part of the issue...

the "fuck" part?, my same argument apply, if an adult is not capable to understand the difference on context of "I'm gonna f*(K you" and "I know brainfuck" probably don't have a lot of common sense, I wouldn't want them as my employers, of course all depends on how tough is the work market, if things are bad I'll work for anyone who pays :)

words are tools, no matter the word itself is the intent and context what can hurt. There are always people looking to be offended to feel some sort of moral superiority, but I don't care about them, those "moral trolls" will find something to be offended anyway. :)

I know this is a website for the young, but you will find that gratuitous cursing doesn't impress anyone over the age of about 20. It's not about morality... the problem is that using it makes you look like a fool, and unprofessional to boot.

Is the name of the programming language, is not gratuitous, is part of a noun refering to a specific thing, and I would say it doesn't impress anyone over 8.

Is not just being impress by it what is childish is giving so much importance to something so irrelevant.

Discard someone for a job because of it to me is childish: in one hand you have a person motivated and interested enough to learn something that will probably will never give any profit, just for the love of it, but discard her/him for saying the name of a PL with a bubu word, that is ridiculous and childish, if I can avoid an employer like that, I will.

In this case is not about expressing in a offensive or even in a vulgar manner, is just a name, so you'll call it "Brainstuff"?, "Brainthingy"?, what if the interviewer doesn't know about it and is interested?, they won't be able to look for it, you just took the funcionality of a name, because of the form, that fundamental view would be a red flag to me.

My point is, of curse if you can't give an interview without cursing like a sailor, will get you nowhere, this is not the case.

If an interviewer curses, shows lack of interest, lack of self control or education; either way, is a bad thing; someone who mention that s(he) learned Brainfuck, doesn't show any of the before-mentioned attributes. Not being able to see the difference is, to me, a problem in someone older than 8-10 years old.

PS: And being young has nothing to do with this (many wouldn't consider me young), and being condescend or dismissive because of age is not professional either; in my time reading posts and comments here I never got the impression that their users are "too young" to understand that cursing is not funny, and you shouldn't do it in an interview. Specially because to me "too young" would be about 8-10 not 20.

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