I disagree with the internship part. Here in the UK, an industrial year or internship is often a wasted year and as someone who did a 3 year degree and found a job a week after University finished I've never had any issues finding a really good job. It's a developers market right now and there are shortages everywhere so scrap the industrial year / internship and go straight into the working world. The sooner you start earning the sooner you get the real developer salaries
Student from Germany who fell in love with coding and the tech industry after pivoting from a traditional career in banking. Currently pursuing a Bachelor's in CompSci.
I think of internships as little real world tests. Take BackEnd Development for example. Maybe I'm super into it and like doing it besides my study, but it is really something I want to do all day long for years? Through the right internship I can quickly validate that decision for myself!
It's also more common in Germany to do an internship for only one semester or even in your semester holidays, which are like 2,5 months.
I think it heavily depends on the company you're working at! Google and some other big players also offer 10-week-long internships to give you a first impression of the different roles there. I think that's not only helpful for your future decisions but also a big plus in your CV!
I did an internship in a small app-agency a year ago, having absolutely zero experience in real development and being just capable of writing HTML and CSS. In just four weeks full-time work on my own project (a prototype for some idea of the agency) I gathered a huge knowledge about JS, Webdev, databases and so on!
They even asked me if I was interested in dropping out from school to make my way as a self-taught developer there.
Sometimes it's not just about "being employable" asap, but more about learning and experience!
I also know a lot of graduates that started with way higher salaries than their competitors, just because they had work experience!
I'm a Systems Reliability and DevOps engineer for Netdata Inc. When not working, I enjoy studying linguistics and history, playing video games, and cooking all kinds of international cuisine.
I guess it's a matter of cultural perspective. Here in the US, it's somewhat challenging to get a job as a developer right out of college unless you either live in a highly tech focused city (like San Francisco or Seattle) or had an internship, especially if you went to a university that isn't known for it's CS program. Things have been shifting, slowly, away from that state of affairs, but I know quite a few people here who went to college to become developers, and haven't been able to find jobs relating to that at all even multiple years after they graduated.
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I disagree with the internship part. Here in the UK, an industrial year or internship is often a wasted year and as someone who did a 3 year degree and found a job a week after University finished I've never had any issues finding a really good job. It's a developers market right now and there are shortages everywhere so scrap the industrial year / internship and go straight into the working world. The sooner you start earning the sooner you get the real developer salaries
I think of internships as little real world tests. Take BackEnd Development for example. Maybe I'm super into it and like doing it besides my study, but it is really something I want to do all day long for years? Through the right internship I can quickly validate that decision for myself!
It's also more common in Germany to do an internship for only one semester or even in your semester holidays, which are like 2,5 months.
I think it heavily depends on the company you're working at! Google and some other big players also offer 10-week-long internships to give you a first impression of the different roles there. I think that's not only helpful for your future decisions but also a big plus in your CV!
I did an internship in a small app-agency a year ago, having absolutely zero experience in real development and being just capable of writing HTML and CSS. In just four weeks full-time work on my own project (a prototype for some idea of the agency) I gathered a huge knowledge about JS, Webdev, databases and so on!
They even asked me if I was interested in dropping out from school to make my way as a self-taught developer there.
Sometimes it's not just about "being employable" asap, but more about learning and experience!
I also know a lot of graduates that started with way higher salaries than their competitors, just because they had work experience!
I guess it's a matter of cultural perspective. Here in the US, it's somewhat challenging to get a job as a developer right out of college unless you either live in a highly tech focused city (like San Francisco or Seattle) or had an internship, especially if you went to a university that isn't known for it's CS program. Things have been shifting, slowly, away from that state of affairs, but I know quite a few people here who went to college to become developers, and haven't been able to find jobs relating to that at all even multiple years after they graduated.