before posting an angry post full of logical fallacies about how they are wrong, stop and seriously consider that they are might be right
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Hello Jarrod, as always hard hitting writing. I expect nothing less. It does suck when people leave comments without reading thoroughly. And it leads to me getting bombarded with multiple people agreeing with them and claiming I’m wrong when a simple read could have prevented the whole thing.
Also it doesn’t help that I’m usually going against the majority but hey someone has to do it.
The only problem of your article is the title. It's clickbait. Why you don't put something like "Managing ENV vars for large-scale project". DEV is huge community for any level of devs and we expect good shout out for good article. It's easier to point what you mean without argueing people and losing the article context itself.
Good point! I’ll make better title in the future, it is unfortunate that the article was taking in the wrong way.
Have you tried to ask naive questions?
"Hello. Have you read my article? What would you say my point was?"
It has a mid success rate of around 40%. It usually ends with with an insult or them doubling down on an opinion from something they didnt read.
Ah ah.
Actually I consider that to be a 100% success.
The 40% that were courageous enough to realize they did a mistake and admit it are probably fine people, the kind of people that could grow to become good readers.
And the other 60% have embarassed themselves as far as I'm concerned and more importantly they are less likely to come back after that.
Polarizing is a win win.
You know what Jean, I'm in that 40%. This is a great way at looking at it, I will take this mindset going forward.
Off topic, but I remember you and went to go check your Github link from your portfolio. The extra "h" is still there
hhttps://github.com/jmfayard/.I didn't forget!
My website was auto generated from DEV.to and stackbit but I found out this connection doesn't work anymore so I need to generate it another way
That is just passive aggressive; stuff like that is just plausible deniability sugar coated snark or rudeness or nastiness.
Well I see it as a tactic I employ sparingly to test out whether the reader is making an honest mistake or just isn't interested in anything I have to say. It's not that I love it, but I found it better than to feel upset and angry. The internet is tough sometimes. Do you know of a better tactic to deal with this issue?
I am #actuallyautistic and found after a lifetime trying present info in an NT friendly manner, just saying what needs to be said in as neutral and factual manner as possible is the best way. No amount of sugar coating is going to win over someone when facts are not enough. So why waste the effort.
Thanks for your answer, I will think about it.
My immediate answer is that I am really trying to do is to evaluate is whether the commentator cares at all about the facts. If they do I'm happy to have a friendlier discussion.
if you have to ask a passive aggressive question like the one you proposed you already know the answer and are just feeding and caring for the trolls.
Is it better if I ask it like this:
I'm often honestly curious about the answer here.
On the other hand if the dude insist in being a jerk, I have no problem with defending myself and standing my ground.
Writing well thought out comments takes a lot of effort. From my experience, if someone wants to have a well thought out discussion in the comments they will.
However, most of the time, comments are like verbal conversations. People write without thinking, and do not go back to polish their thoughts or back their claims. People don't have time for this.
The true test of character is when people come back to say more. If someone gets defensive, it's not worth continuing the conversation because they made it personal. At that point, if you are going to say anything, it's best to apologize or agree to disagree.
It takes two to argue and two to have a conversation.
It only takes one to spread misinformation and the entire rest of the world to correct it
I have been personally working on reducing this thought process since last year.
A good rule for me to easily remember is to change the default reaction of outside opinions. By proving them right and not wrong. So you try to convince yourself that whatever the other person is trying to share is right. Thereby tackling your own bias which otherwise would be more harder.
This doesn't mean you have to agree with the other person. But you try your level best to agree with the other person. Unlike the usual thought process which the opposite of it. Kind of like a debate within yourself. It has had a positive effect on me. But it is hard to follow consistently.
I have wrote about it here - unsungnovelty.org/posts/09/2021/pr...
PS: I try not to share non-dev related productivity articles in Dev.to. Which is why I am sharing the link to my website's article.
It's a huge problem when people read too fast or only want to shine in the comments, sometimes leading to completely miss what the author is trying to highlight.
I've seen it so many times, and on many platforms. On the one hand, authors are happy to get reactions but, on the other hand, they may also get off-topic comments or even personal attacks.
Although, it's usually not the vast majority of "discussions," which is what DEV is trying to emulate (like the ones you have in meetups).
All too real.
That paragraph reminded me of this ferocious quote from Isaac Asimov on what he calls the Cult of Ignorance
my version of this is "your ignorance is not a measure of my competence", never seen this quote, is it verified?
Victor Hugo once said that nobody cares about the original author of an internet quote as long as the author is famous and the quote sounds interesting.
But I found "A Cult of Ignorance", Newsweek (21 January 1980)) via en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Isaac_Asimov
very nice find! I was just starting high school in 1981, and that cult was just getting started dismantling the arts in public school at the time. Very topical at that time and this and prescient.
Actually I never care about who is "the original author" of a quote, because everyone copies everyone, but the article is even funnier than the quote and I highly recommand it.
Very insightful post. I was a bit disappointed when I clicked on your profile to see what else you've posted only to discover this is your first post. Hopefully it is not your last.