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DesirΓ© πŸ‘©β€πŸŽ“πŸ‘©β€πŸ« • Edited

Wow this is so rude I wasn't even going to answer, but I will, partially.

First of all I'm an specialist. I'm that person that you call when you need help to structure a whole design and project and to learn about usability and accessibility matters.

Second of all, I've been developing code for Smart Solutions, they don't get people with crap code there, buddy.

Third of all, I've actually gave mentorship to 2 juniors at my last job, because I actually know what I'm doing.

And fourth of all. What the hell are you even talking about.

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Dave • Edited

DesirΓ©, with all due respect, I wouldn't consider what was said to you "rude".

You need to be able to accept exactly what that poster said. You might disagree. You might strongly disagree. But it is a perfectly valid viewpoint and having asked for advice you must acknowledge that not all the advice is going to be what you want to hear.

While they may have toned their message slightly harshly, if I watched this discussion take place amongst my staff (I don't work in tech) I would in fact be more concerned by your response to it. This is part of the learning experience of our first years in the workforce.

From my early years of employment, I'm certainly ashamed of some of the assumptions I made about more senior staff, some of the causes I climbed on board with, and some of the misplaced perceptions I had about the motives of others. Stepping back from it and accepting that conflicts are part of day-to-day life, and not all criticism is a personal slight, is vital.

The very best thing you can do is solicit advice and be 100% receptive to it - especially the advice you hoped not to hear.

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DesirΓ© πŸ‘©β€πŸŽ“πŸ‘©β€πŸ«

Automated message β€” Sorry, I'm not reading/answering any comments that don't respect the code of conduct of this community. Thank you for your time reading me and for your attention!

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Dave

DesirΓ©,

I genuinely fail to see where I am breaching the code of conduct in the statement above. You have asked a question and answers are being being given. Not all of them will be favourable and accepting that is important. It is especially important in the workplace.

I'll leave it at that as the last sentence above probably says all that is necessary I think.

Good luck with your company, and I do hope it works out for you.

Dave

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mcsnoogins

You come across as very arrogant quite a lot in your posts. Maybe this is the reason you are having these problems.

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DesirΓ© πŸ‘©β€πŸŽ“πŸ‘©β€πŸ«

I don't understand what you mean.

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Laughing Raven

And that is the problem. You have no formal education and very little experience. There is nothing wrong with that, however. Just understand where you are really at in your career, take criticism with grace and learn all you can.

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DesirΓ© πŸ‘©β€πŸŽ“πŸ‘©β€πŸ«

I can see there are lots of people here who haven't read a single word I've writen. You, for example.

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Laughing Raven

I have read your post. I am addressing the glaring issue that it presents. This is not an attack on your person-hood. This is a truth that all new professionals must learn no mater the industry.

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DesirΓ© πŸ‘©β€πŸŽ“πŸ‘©β€πŸ«

And that's why I learned my job, and started selling my services, and started teaching other people and giving conferences and writing guides/tutorials, because when you've already learned then you start teaching.

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Steve Pereira

Please ignore these trolls, if they're not banned yet for COC violation they will be soon. They have no idea what they're talking about and have no business giving any feedback.

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DesirΓ© πŸ‘©β€πŸŽ“πŸ‘©β€πŸ«

Thank you, Steve. I've came across this kind of comments more often than I'd like, I guess people can't realize this is not another sh*tty forum/page where talking nonsense is not punishable.

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Steve Pereira

I hope it is punishable, otherwise this place will become a chan for devs which would be awful.

Stay positive and stay awesome.

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Laughing Raven

Learning to be a professional is difficult work. In the age of the internet everyone thinks they are one tut away from glory. Gladwell's idea of a minimum of 10,000 hours to master a topic, is alive now more then ever. Is reminding a self taught dev with 3 years experience that they are a junior and have a lot to learn trolling? Certainly not. Does the COC state that we must fuel fantasies with even more illusion of grandeur, no.

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DesirΓ© πŸ‘©β€πŸŽ“πŸ‘©β€πŸ«

Do not treat my experience, work and projects as an "ilusion" never again.

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Laughing Raven

I'm certainly not. I'm sure that you've done very good work in this early stage of your career. My point to you and to the other people on this thread is that it takes a very long time to become proficient or expert in any field. And that believing you are further along in your path than you are can be very dangerous. It can cause someone to lead others astray with false ideas. it can also cause someone to shut the door on criticism and critique because they believe they are beyond those things. I'm a very busy person and I take time out of my day to respond to these posts not because I'm some kind of troll, but because I want to grow the industry and correct some of the fallacies that I see within it.

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Steve Pereira

Sorry that you've wasted your time on this thread because the fact is everything you've said applies to all levels of experience. Time and experience do not open the mind and improve people unless they possess a growth mindset, which is something a beginner can excel at. You're going to have to work harder to demonstrate your view and prove your point.

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Laughing Raven

With all due respect sir I don't have to prove anything. But I do appreciate your input