I found it interesting how people bash on PHP and don't seem to realize they bash on not even the wrongest part of the language. I worked a lot with PHP, from 5 and a little with 7. PHP is a One to One prototype from the underlying C library, making as consistent as C and C++. Here is a video that explains why youtube.com/watch?v=wCZ5TJCBWMg. In summary, PHP came at the right place at the right time and grew at the right pace, leaving behind inter-module consistency.
It also explains that yes, PHP was not and is not the fastest, but their strategy at the time was way better than faster and more "thoroughly though" languages like Perl and Python. And please, Javascript has been developed in such a hurry that it is way more of a mess than PHP (in my opinion).
And I never used it, but I thought HipHop from Facebook was a PHP compiler (don't know about Hack!).
What is the worst part of PHP for me:
weak/strong comparator (such as == or ===) ;
method overloading only possible using arrays ;
the way it implies if something is a string or a number or whatever ;
the memory footprint (at least with 5) ;
So for me, any loosely typed language makes it easier to create bugs. In such a case, there is always linters.
I mostly agree with you! My main point would be: why keep on working on Frankenstein while there is so many straightforward alternatives.
For the record, in 2010 I strongly stepped in favor of PHP for my projects, but things changed so that PHP doesn't make sense anymore (in my opinion, everyone thinks whatever they want)
That is exactly why I left the Web for Embedded system. I don't know for you, but I was a little tired of doing the same thing over and over again (CRUD stuff). Challenges in Web development, IMHO, is not in the code anymore but in the infrastructure.
Dealing with the 5 desktop browsers, the 18 mobile device formats (plus many browsers) was for me the bigger pain. It has been 2 years since I didn't do any web development per se, so maybe it got better.
All the Web is "hurried development" such as PHP, Javascript and "hey look a new device lets put a browser in it!" (like a refrigerator O_o). Browser version comes out every what, 3-4 weeks. This is pure madness.
C and C++ are not perfect, but at least when I work on an STM32 there is only one place my code will run, for one purpose. And I came to realize that embedded system, even though challenging and low-level, can bring high-value quickly to a device.
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I found it interesting how people bash on PHP and don't seem to realize they bash on not even the wrongest part of the language. I worked a lot with PHP, from 5 and a little with 7. PHP is a One to One prototype from the underlying C library, making as consistent as C and C++. Here is a video that explains why youtube.com/watch?v=wCZ5TJCBWMg. In summary, PHP came at the right place at the right time and grew at the right pace, leaving behind inter-module consistency.
It also explains that yes, PHP was not and is not the fastest, but their strategy at the time was way better than faster and more "thoroughly though" languages like Perl and Python. And please, Javascript has been developed in such a hurry that it is way more of a mess than PHP (in my opinion).
And I never used it, but I thought HipHop from Facebook was a PHP compiler (don't know about Hack!).
What is the worst part of PHP for me:
So for me, any loosely typed language makes it easier to create bugs. In such a case, there is always linters.
I mostly agree with you! My main point would be: why keep on working on Frankenstein while there is so many straightforward alternatives.
For the record, in 2010 I strongly stepped in favor of PHP for my projects, but things changed so that PHP doesn't make sense anymore (in my opinion, everyone thinks whatever they want)
That is exactly why I left the Web for Embedded system. I don't know for you, but I was a little tired of doing the same thing over and over again (CRUD stuff). Challenges in Web development, IMHO, is not in the code anymore but in the infrastructure.
Dealing with the 5 desktop browsers, the 18 mobile device formats (plus many browsers) was for me the bigger pain. It has been 2 years since I didn't do any web development per se, so maybe it got better.
All the Web is "hurried development" such as PHP, Javascript and "hey look a new device lets put a browser in it!" (like a refrigerator O_o). Browser version comes out every what, 3-4 weeks. This is pure madness.
C and C++ are not perfect, but at least when I work on an STM32 there is only one place my code will run, for one purpose. And I came to realize that embedded system, even though challenging and low-level, can bring high-value quickly to a device.