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Raphael Habereder • Edited

Java is niche? I disagree strongly. It might be (falsely so) considered legacy by some, but it is by no means niche.
Java is now, with microservices and containers, facing a huge demand and second wind once again.

I usually don't defend any language, because it's mostly flavour and opinions, but Java is definitely a language we can call full-stack.

Javascript may be much larger in it's userbase, but even so it's ecosystem is smaller.

With Java you get full fledged and battletested CI/CD (Jenkins), package and artifact Management (Nexus, artifactory), security scanning (NexusIQ, Sonar), observability (built into JVM), deployment Management (AppServers of different flavours) and much much more.

Everything managed by commonly accepted and well-defined Standards.

Thats not something you can get with Javascript as of now.

Libraries, of which Java has more than enough for every possible use-case, aren't everything I'm afraid.

I'm not denying Javascript it's deserved glory, far from it. The improvements it made over the last 10 years are astonishing!
But the tooling changes so rapidly and often, getting something as proven and tested as the Java World Counterparts will take a lot more time.

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Dhruv garg

I would also like to add Quarkus. I am not very experienced but It looks really awesome to me. with graalVM and quarkus, we can now make native java executable and size of these executable are very small compared to JAR. It's performance will also be better since it is machine code instead of byte code. The startup time is also very fast, which is important for microservices in some cases.

Best of all, we can use same API's like JPA, CDI etc. so an experienced java developer can get easily started with quarkus.

Do check it out - quarkus.io/

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Raphael Habereder • Edited

Absolutely true.
In one of my clients projects we are using Quarkus and migrate quite a few webservices to it currently.
The performance and minimal overhead of the resulting native binaries is amazing.
It takes quite a bit of modification to the typical CI-Chain, but if you get it to run smoothly, the results are astonishing.

If you want, I could write up a little article about it here

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Dhruv garg

yeah, I would love it.

It will be very helpful as there is relatively less material available on quarkus.

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Raphael Habereder

Consider it in the works :)

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Raphael Habereder

It is done :)