I'll take the last half sentence of the accepted answer:
"Modal interface in the hands of an experienced and non-fickle person can be extremely efficient."
Meaning, on any other case you can harm yourself or get frustrated (Vim is hard), but with the right method and learning curve, you can become incredibly productive and satisfied.
But again - it takes work.
Absolutly, I'm a neovim user myself. Not an expert but after time I find "easier" working with vim/nvim than other editors. That stackoverflow thread is interesting because, in reality, modes and modal editors are precisely against every usability principle.
Hence the question - how do you explain the adaptation of vim and its modern progress?
And do you know any other modern IDE that comes close to its abilities?
VScode vim mode doesn’t count.. these are still vim modes in a prettier GUI
The key question here is, why do modal editors exist in the first place? In the early days of Unix before mouses were widely used, all the editing was keyboard-driven, from moving the cursor around the document to more complex operations, like string substitution.
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if Vim is so awesome, how come no other editor has adopted some of its capabilities?
Because when mouses started to be widely used, there was no point in modal editors. But again, there is a reason why vim or emacs survived all these years, they are incredibly powerful.
As for modern editors, well, actually there is Oni.v2.
I get that, I do. But the thing is that while it isn't explicitly mentioned, mouses are convenient but are key in making us lazy, slower and thus less productive.
Heck, even arrows are "banned" in Vim...
So yeah, a mouse is easier, and if you don't want to learn too hard it's obvious why would you use it.
But for those of thus that care about productivity and satisfaction, it can't be achieved with other IDEs, no matter how familiar you are with their own set of shortcuts. In Vim it's a philosophy translated into concepts, rather than a few nice keyboard shortcuts.
This is all IMHO of course...
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There are a few interesting answers about that on this thread:
stackoverflow.com/questions/14410/...
I'll take the last half sentence of the accepted answer:
Meaning, on any other case you can harm yourself or get frustrated (Vim is hard), but with the right method and learning curve, you can become incredibly productive and satisfied.
But again - it takes work.
Absolutly, I'm a neovim user myself. Not an expert but after time I find "easier" working with vim/nvim than other editors. That stackoverflow thread is interesting because, in reality, modes and modal editors are precisely against every usability principle.
Hence the question - how do you explain the adaptation of vim and its modern progress?
And do you know any other modern IDE that comes close to its abilities?
VScode vim mode doesn’t count.. these are still vim modes in a prettier GUI
The key question here is, why do modal editors exist in the first place? In the early days of Unix before mouses were widely used, all the editing was keyboard-driven, from moving the cursor around the document to more complex operations, like string substitution.
This answer
Because when mouses started to be widely used, there was no point in modal editors. But again, there is a reason why vim or emacs survived all these years, they are incredibly powerful.
As for modern editors, well, actually there is Oni.v2.
I get that, I do. But the thing is that while it isn't explicitly mentioned, mouses are convenient but are key in making us lazy, slower and thus less productive.
Heck, even arrows are "banned" in Vim...
So yeah, a mouse is easier, and if you don't want to learn too hard it's obvious why would you use it.
But for those of thus that care about productivity and satisfaction, it can't be achieved with other IDEs, no matter how familiar you are with their own set of shortcuts. In Vim it's a philosophy translated into concepts, rather than a few nice keyboard shortcuts.
This is all IMHO of course...